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McCain/Gore

Discussion in 'Political Debate & Discussion' started by exscentric, May 12, 2008.

  1. exscentric

    exscentric Well-Known Member
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    McCain just spoke in OR and sounded more like Gore than Gore does on global warming and praised the Democratic Governor here up one side and down the other. This governor is an environmental nut cake and has allowed 150,000 (Ruff est.) illegal aliens to get OR drivers licenses.

    He was spouting the raising oceans, the raising temps the everything! Gore should be proud.

    I don't know if any of the media caught him or not.

    Then again maybe it was Gore in a McCain mask.
     
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    McCain Differs With Bush on Climate Change

    By ELISABETH BUMILLER and JOHN M. BRODER

    PORTLAND, Ore. — Senator John McCain sought to distance himself from President Bush on Monday as he called for a mandatory limit on greenhouse gas emissions in the United States.

    Mr. McCain, the presumptive Republican presidential nominee, also pledged to work with the European Union to diplomatically engage China and India, two of the world’s biggest polluters, if those nations refused to participate in an international agreement to slow global warming.

    In what his campaign promoted as a major speech on climate change, the Arizona senator renewed his support for a “cap-and-trade” system in which power plants and other polluters could meet limits on greenhouse gases by either reducing emissions on their own or buying credits from more efficient producers.

    “Instead of idly debating the precise extent of global warming or the precise timeline of global warming, we need to deal with the central facts of rising temperatures, rising waters and all the endless troubles that global warming will bring,” Mr. McCain said at a wind power plant in Oregon, a state that is expected to be a political battleground in the general election and where the environment is a central issue for voters. “We stand warned by serious and credible scientists across the world that time is short and the dangers are great.”

    Mr. McCain added pointedly: “I will not shirk the mantle of leadership that the United States bears. I will not permit eight long years to pass without serious action on serious challenges.”

    The senator’s remarks were a direct criticism of Mr. Bush, who in his first term questioned the scientific basis for global warming and has remained adamantly opposed to mandatory caps on emissions as bad for the American economy.

    - rest at www.nytimes.com/2008/05/13/us/politics/12cnd-mccain.html?hp
     
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    We really need to put a stop to global warming. It has now effected other planets Mars and Jupiter. Our use of cars and their emissions now has begun to not only tear apart earth but now has begun to deteriorate the whole Galaxy.:laugh:
     
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    Maybe we need to send Gore and his folks with their cars to Mars and cure the problem here :thumbs:
     
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    We could do Nascar on mars ;)
     
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    ==Thats the best way to write a post and say nothing :laugh: . Attacking McCain because of his position on global warming makes no sense. Conservatives can be pro-environment too, you know? The liberals don't have a lock on this issue. Being concerned about our environment and wanting to find cleaner sources of energy (etc) is not a liberal position. I heard most of McCain's speach on XM radio and, while I did not agree with all of it, I thought his ideas were generally good ones. Gore has nothing to do with this since, as I hope we all know, he is a fraud who is using this issue to stay in the spotlight. I don't say that because he is liberal, I say that because what Gore says and what Gore does contradicts.
     
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    What did Mars ever do to you? :laugh:
     
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    Ever see their commercials. They are already there. Of course the Intergalactic climate police are sure to follow:​
     
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    HA!

    Meet George Jetson . . .
     
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    Alright, We can send it to Jupiter instead. :thumbs:
     
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    "Thats the best way to write a post and say nothing :laugh: . Attacking McCain because of his position on global warming makes no sense. Conservatives can be pro-environment too, you know? The liberals don't have a lock on this issue. Being concerned about our environment and wanting to find cleaner sources of energy (etc) is not a liberal position. I heard most of McCain's speach on XM radio and, while I did not agree with all of it, I thought his ideas were generally good ones. Gore has nothing to do with this since, as I hope we all know, he is a fraud who is using this issue to stay in the spotlight. I don't say that because he is liberal, I say that because what Gore says and what Gore does contradicts. ____________"

    Don't remember saying anything about it being liberal/conservative. ???
     
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    You would think so. Conservatives actually wanting to conserve something like the environment. Nah!
     
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    So your constant comparing McCain to Gore was meaningless? If your op was not meant to paint McCain as a liberal because of his position on the environment, what was your op about? Please explain further if you believe I have misunderstood what you were trying to say.
     
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    "So your constant comparing McCain to Gore was meaningless?"

    Uhhh constant being twice/three if you stretchg it????????

    "If your op was not meant to paint McCain as a liberal because of his position on the environment, what was your op about?"

    It was to inform that McCain sounded like Gore on global warming, not a thirty five point comparison of all their positions to prove that one is the same as the other - one point not their entire postion.

    "Please explain further if you believe I have misunderstood what you were trying to say."

    Hopefully that is done.
     
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    That cinchs my support for John McCain.

    It is time for us to act like we are in the same world as the rest of the people.

    Read my trailer/signature.


     
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    ==The globe is warming and it has been warming, off and on, for thousands of years. There is even a history book out examining the effects of climate change on human history (I forget the title/author). The world is generally getting warmer. Climate change is real. Is there anything McCain or anyone else can do about it? Probably not. However supporting a clean environment is never a bad idea.
     
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    I have no issue with responsibly managing our environment. My problem is that of blaming mankind, and taxing the pants off him for, global warming. We're not hearing that the globe had a temperature peak around 2000 and is actually cooling. We're also not told, by these pseudo scientists, that the output by the sun was causing all the planets to warm, simultaneously. Why blame man? In order to build a bureaucracy of staggering proportions to sop up money. Al Gore is in the front line of that endeavor.
     
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