meaning of Lord?

what word would you use to reflect the biblical truth that IF we sin after being saved by God, that unless/until we confess that to God, He will NOT be able to continue to deal with us in a spiritual sense, will not not be able to move us forward in our maturity process/walk with Christ...

We will be "stuck in place!"

 

No word as the bible does not teach what you said or suggested.

 

So nothing happens to us as Christians if we continue to refuse to deal with sin areas in our lives?

God has fully and totally forgiveness us IF in Christ, but we still need to repent/confess in order to allow Him to keep blessing our lives in all areas...

failure to do that means that we will face the chaistisment of God, and he will not bless us any futher until dealt with!

 

Where does John SAY that he is dealing with Gnostics?

Which commentary are you reading? You are not getting that information from the actual text of Scripture. It is conjecture at best.

 

Wasn't Gnosticism at the time of the NT letters merely though in its "iinfancy stages?"

Fal writes as if the Apostle was addressing "full blown" stage of it in early Church!

 

actually the confessing of Christ is that you willingly accept Him as your Savior. The Lord of your life.
MB

 

No, A Christians does not continue to refuse to deal with sin. That is what the lost does.

 

You have NEVER had a time where you were doing a sin, and knew that God was convicting you, trying to get you to stop doing it, but you decided to keep doing it for awhile?

I have had such experiences, thankful fewer now than at the start of my life in Christ!

 

NO not since I was saved and neither has anyone else who is saved although many try and convinve others it can happen. I have experienced that prior to being saved when I made false professions, but not as a Christian. Many people think they are saved when they are not. Matt 7:21. What you are describing is a rebellious heart which is one of evidences of being lost. It is impossible to be in repentance and rebellion at the same time. What you are describing is a person who has not repented. No repentance no salvation. Biblical repentance is not something we do at a particular time and (take back) walk away from. Biblical repentance is a state we enter into and never leave if we are saved. We are kept not only in faith but in the state of repentance.

2Cor 7:10 For godly sorrow worketh repentance to salvation not to be repented of: but the sorrow of the world worketh death.

If you had said you had times when you were battling sin yet seeking to walk with the Lord but were not winning the battle then yes that can happen, but not what you are suggesting.

 

You REALLy never had a time/experience since getting saved by God where you did not live for the Lord according to his word?

Like you got angry at someone, and did not deal with it for awhile?
that you were watching "bad stuff" for awhile, before dealing with the Lord on it?
that you might have got drunk, and stay stubborn for awhile against letting God get you to deal with it?

Just trying to see why what you are saying would not qualify as being "sinless perfection?"

 

No I have not. I have like many Child of God (those who are saved) had things (sins) in my life that were struggles and had to fight them over periods of time to overcome them, but I was all the time fighting them not simply doing them and ignoring God. There has never been a time when I was sinning and just putting off dealing with it as you seem to state, like a hog loves wallowing in the mire. You are talking about someone in rebellion, not someone who is saved. A true believe hates sin and most of all their own. Even when we sin we hate it and no we do not run from God to practice sinning. The lost are running from God not the saved.

 

"A Christian cannot lose fellowship"

Do you have any other mantra, like actually answering a person's post?

 

You err in your interpretation of this verse. It is directed to Christians. An unsaved person cannot have Godly sorrow. That is impossible. Godly sorrow is only characteristic of the saved. This, again, refers to the brother of 1Cor.5:1-5. He, as a brother in Christ, had repented. The Corinthians had to accept him as such. He did not have to repent again. He had repented of his sin once. He didn't have to repent of it again. The salvation is physical. Reread the passage in 1Cor.5. Had he not repented there was a good chance that the Lord may have killed him. There is a sin unto death. Check 1Cor.11:30. God chastens his own (Heb.12), and sometimes even to death. If he did not chasten his own, then they wouldn't be his own.

The passage you are misinterpreting is written to Christians only, as are all the epistles.

 

If that passage is speaking about Christians as you say then all Christians need to be saved according to the passage. Here is what it says

2Cor 7:10For godly sorrow produces repentance [leading] to salvation, not to be regretted; but the sorrow of the world produces death.

If only a Christian can have godly sorrow as you say then all Christian’s needs to get saved as godly sorrow produces repentance which leads to to salvation, not follows salvation.

 

So your understanding regarding this is that a true believer, one really has been saved, will not be able at times to choose to rebell against God, as for example one who commits adultry, leaves his wife for a season, quits going tochurch, yet does eventually repent that sin/confess to God and wife his sinning, and wants to come back to her and his church...

Not possible to happen, or he need to get resaved again?

 

Apostle peter an example given in the scriptures as one who had godly repentance...

Did He get resaved, or saved for first time then?

 

One of the errors attributed to the writing and sealing of the Canon of Scripture made early before a good understanding was had on the subject stipulated that Greek and/or Gnostic thought had a lot to do with the content of the New Testament. This error yet remains and is taught as factual in any number of history texts and seminary programs, so it continues to be passed about, often confusing people and undermining their faith in the authority of the NT.

Nash does as good a job as anyone in refuting this error with factual and cited sources that debunk the idea that Gnosticism and/or Greek thought permeated the NT. That all came much later, well after the content of the NT Canon was already distributed and in use by the early church.

 

That is not the gist of John's letter... John is indeed calling the Christian TO confess and deal with his or her sin(s).

You are offering a red herring argument here that does not help you make your case.

 

Only a Christian can have Godly sorrow. Where is God in the "ungodly"?
There is no God in the ungodly! That is a contradiction to say that there is; how can the ungodly be Godly? You are not making sense.

Read the passage again. Give me one solid evidence that the passage is not directed to "the saints at Corinth." The saints are those that are saved.

Remember, there are times in the Bible when salvation means more than just spiritual salvation. I believe here it means physical salvation.

This is speaking of the same man back in 1Cor.5. What did it say there?

To deliver such an one unto Satan for the destruction of the flesh, that the spirit may be saved in the day of the Lord Jesus. (1 Corinthians 5:5)
If any man's work shall be burned, he shall suffer loss: but he himself shall be saved; yet so as by fire. (1 Corinthians 3:15)
--He would lose reward but not salvation.
One can never lose their salvation. The reference here is not to the Great White Throne Judgement, but to the Judgement Seat of Christ.

But when we are judged, we are chastened of the Lord, that we should not be condemned with the world. (1 Corinthians 11:32)

 

Read my post. I said what Io said, not what you said.