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Just My Thought....

...but I think you are allowing FAL, SF and SF'sW to have too much sway over your opinions on this topic.

There are going to be those, who unfortunately [even among us in the church] have a narrow view of certain subjects.

Granted, the path is narrow, but in no way does that mean we, as believers, are to have a "narrow point of view!"

I said this before, and I'll say it again. When I worshiped among the WoFer's, I was sucked into their guilt-trips over my inability to be rid of several chronic illnesses. Everything from I was not praying hard enough; to I didn't have adequate faith, and more. Listen....with His help, I broke free of their harmful theology and doctrines, and I know you too, can break free from the uncaring views of the few on this board [who lack medical knowledge] who set themselves up as judge and jury.

In the past, I've run into my share of "Know-it-alls" on this board, and I used to let them get to me [profoundly]. However, I have learned that, when compared to the expansive universe we live in, their views are so minuscule, they mean nothing to me.
Once I reread about Paul's thorn, a light went on, and it helped me to wrap my head and heart around the fact that our bodies are not perfect [due to the effects sin has had on the body over time], and subject to physical and mental ailments. Sin not only corrupts the soul; it corrodes the flesh, and over time, the body is becoming more suspectable to things it wasn't suspectable to thousands of years earlier.

The number of believers who believe [hardcore] that mental illness can be cured by confession of sins, is as small as the minds of those who think that way.

You are okay, just like you are, and so long as you know that God loves you [and He does] like you are, that should be all that matters to you.

I would never judge you, and tons of others here have also expressed the same thing. Now you have to accept the fact that it's acceptable to have a mental thorn that God has chosen not to remove. He has, and will continue to provide you a way around this thorn in order to continue to serve Him. :applause:

I'm praying for you to say to the devil, "Get yourself behind me!" and move on loving who God made you to be. :thumbsup:

 

stt,

If you think I am responsible for that young man killing himself, the simple solution would be to call the police and tell them I caused the young man's death.

Let me know how that goes, will ya?

 

Yes John it was sin that drove him to commit sin. He made a willful choice to sin and sadly it was his last.

 

We don't condemn the deceased. If he was unsaved, he was condemned already.

 

Praying for you, God bless

 

Neither of you should cast the first stone.

You have no insight as to what, how much, or if any "sin" was involved.

The young man's life and death (for Christ, alone, has both in His control) was purposed by God.

To what end this tragedy has reached into the hearts of the family and friends may never be fully known.

However, your assumption that it was "sin" is nothing but a self righteous puffed up pronouncement that has no foundation in Scripture nor in the conversation of a believer who is to live charitably.

 

That is not true. God never purposes sin and suicide is sin.

 

Then you should have no problem in proving suicide is a sin.

 

So you don't believe that suicide is sin? I can give you scripture but the old saying applies here. You can lead a horswe to water but yuo cannto make him drink and you have shown over and over you do not believe scripture means what it says so what is the point?

 

Ann read the previous post as it applies to you also.

 

Sweet words. Grace. Thank you for your post. :flower:

 

What I believe or do not believe is not what is to be considered.

You made the statement that suicide is a sin; you are to prove your statement that suicide is a sin.

Are you going to prove your statement with Scriptures, or are you going to avoid real discussion and the statement be considered as not Scriptural?

 

Here goes but like I said a horse that has made up its mind will not drink.
(1 Corinthians 6:19-20 NIV) [19] Do you not know that your body is a temple of the Holy Spirit, who is in you, whom you have received from God? You are not your own; [20] you were bought at a price. Therefore honor God with your body.

(1 Corinthians 3:16-17 NIV) [16] Don't you know that you yourselves are God's temple and that God's Spirit lives in you? [17] If anyone destroys God's temple, God will destroy him; for God&'s temple is sacred, and you are that temple.

 

When My Son Took His Life...

....My ex-wife chose not to inform me of his suicide until nearly two months after the fact, and the only reason she told me was because she needed me to take my daughter in for a while, as my daughter was supposedly being stalked by an ex-boyfriend/drugdealer [this proved to be one more lie on her behalf - another post and story].

My ex and the kids lived in Texas, I lived in California, and because she knew I'd discover my son's suicide once my daughter arrived out here, she decided to tell me (way after the fact).

Sure, there was sin involved, and it is quite possible that it was his sin [sleeping with his first cousin], drug use, and other illegal activities to earn money [never held a job]; however, in truth, it was his mental illness [something he was being treated for with Rx's] and the use of drugs and alcohol mixed with prescription drugs that sent him over the edge. He was bi-polar, and didn't heed the direction of his treating doctors to STAY off alcohol and drugs!!! It was his choice, and a wrong at that...

I tend to believe what Jesus said in John 10:6-10[the MSG] - Jesus told this simple story, but they had no idea what he was talking about. So he tried again. "I'll be explicit, then. I am the Gate for the sheep. All those others are up to no good—sheep stealers, every one of them. But the sheep didn't listen to them. I am the Gate. Anyone who goes through me will be cared for—will freely go in and out, and find pasture. A thief is only there to steal and kill and destroy. I came so they can have real and eternal life, more and better life than they ever dreamed of.

Jesus called it like it is: The thief [Devil] came to kill (any hope of having a relationship with Jesus), steal from (rob mankind of peace that only comes from knowing God), and destroy (take the persons soul while here on earth and keep it from eternity). Satan accomplished his three-fold attack on my son's life on earth and stole his soul [for eternity]...

The way I see it is - Misery loves company/Satan craves company!