Mighty Quiet

Indeed. I've always voted pretty much straight Republican but that changed this year. While we were watching a little bit of election coverage, I told my wife that I had no sympathy at all for Republicans losing their majority. They did it to themselves.

 

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We're probably looking at 2 years of "stalemate."

Considering what's been going on in Congress...there are several realms of politics that "stalemate" isn't the worst option.

Iraq is about to get even more interesting...

 

They sure did LE. I believe we underestimated the message the leftist radicals have embraced over the last few years. Who would have thought a message of hate, filled with inuendos and outright lies repeated over and over again would result in a victory. They have/had absolutely no plan for any business the nation is confronted with other than defeat GWB. This is a sad day for Christianity and this nation.

 

She wasn't ever a page, she had been an intern before the affair and she was 22, not a teenager (if actual facts matter).

 

Yes. Congratulations are in order if you want to see your tax dollars going to fund abortion... if you want to ensure that no more constitutionalist justices are placed on the Supreme Court... if you want to see job creating tax cuts go by the way side in favor of a liberal power grab... if you want to see the agenda of the House shaped by San Fran liberal elitists... if you want to see House leadership who are completely delusional about the nature and ambitions of the enemy we face... if you want to see a convicted felon head the House Intel committee...

Yes. Unfortunately a people gets the gov't it deserves. The GOP foolishly squandered their mandate by abandoning principle.

However the Dems won by default. They didn't have to promote ideals just bash the Republicans. They didn't deserve to win either having never actually told the voters what they would do with the power. Now that Soros has successfully purchased one of the branches of gov't and positioned himself to purchase another... you should certainly be pleased and proud.

BTW, if I am not mistaken Soros is a criminal as well... Oh well, better the criminals who want to centralize more power in Washington, huh?:BangHead:

 

I voted straight GOP on my ballot even this year, but that doesn't matter. There was never any real chance for any of the GOP candidates in my area.

Nationally, I don't care that the Democrats now have control. Maybe this will be the poison that weeds out some of the corruption from the GOP.

Overall, though, we aren't looking at a Howard Dean style majority. Many of these Democrats are conservative to moderate. Just look at PA. Bob Casey defeated the uber-conservative Rick Santorum, but Casey is no flaming liberal. He's pro-life, pro-gun, etc. When you look at the other PA senator, Arlen Specter, you may actually find the Democrat more conservative than the Republican!

 

I look at it as a chance for the dems to prove they can be taken seriously. Easy come, easy go. I'm pretty sure the minimum wage hike will lead to more unemployment, and I'm also pretty sure repealing tax cuts will affect you and I more than the rich.

Unlike a lot of folks, I don't think most Americans are stupid. This loss happened for a reason, people aren't happy. So I'm gonna give them a chance, I'm gonna pray for them, and us.

 

If the Republican president of a corporation had done what the Democratic president of the US had done... he'd have been chased from office for gross misconduct if not sexual harassment.

Just one more way liberals are hypocritical.

 

I thought Soros vowed to get out of politics.

 

The problem is that many Americans are ignorant and willingly so. They have been fed a long propaganda line and have swallowed it... a lie repeated often enough was the Nazi method and it has worked well for Pelosi and crew.

Do you really believe that the media will allow any job losses to be blamed on the Dems much less pet ideals such as "taxing the rich" or increasing the minimum wage?

Pelosi and Dean have an agenda. It isn't what they talk about because they know it doesn't win. But they also know it is shared by large portions of the Washington press corps... so as long as they don't talk about it they can't be held accountable for it.

Campaign finance reform has gone a long way to empowering the national press. Watch for one of the more subtle acts of collusion between them and the Dems to be attempts to restrict internet free speech and to reinstitute the "fairness doctrine" to suppress talk radio. They'll probably also attempt to be even more restrictive on how conservative Christians can express themselves in the political realm. Barry Lind is elated I'm sure.

 

They already do even with a Republican controlled Congress...

In 2004 and 2005, Planned Parenthood received $551 million in governmental funding. Planned Parenthood performs abortions.

 

Actually, that's not the case. There were three pretty consistent themes in the messages of the Democrats across the country during this election. One was a phased-out US presence in Iraq. There were some loud voices speaking out about immediate withdrawal, but that's not the theme the party's candidates took to the voters. Most Americans have figured out on their own that the invasion of Iraq had little to nothing to do with 9-11 or the war on terror, the evidence has clearly shown that to be the case. The Democrats put forth the idea of a reasonable timetable for withdrawal, which Bush countered with vague, "stay the course" rhetoric. The Democrats are pushing for a shift of both national security policy and military strategy that involves actually putting resources in trouble spots where the terrorists are known to be operating.

The second theme was to achieve economic stability by cutting spending and balancing the tax load. I've seen a lot of people here question for months why Bush and the Republicans weren't touting the growing economy. They couldn't. The economy was growing, but 60% of the population wasn't experiencing the benefits of that growth. Bush did mention the creation of 6 million jobs, but he failed to note that actual wages paid to workers declined, which means that the vast majority of those 6 million jobs were minimum wage, or below living wage, jobs. And with 56% of Americans paying more in taxes than they did four years ago, the Democratic theme of eliminating the tax breaks for the wealthy rang true with voters.

The third theme was health care reform. Click on CNN's website where the exit poll data was collected to see how high the percentage of seniors and middle aged American votes went to Democrats asa a result of this issue.

I have no doubt that the Democrats capitalized on Bush administration failures, from the hypocrisy of accusing liberal judges of "legislating from the bench" while their own judges are handing America over, piece by piece, to foreign corporate interests to the rhetoric on the flood of illegal immigration which has essentially occurred during the Bush years, to the mess of tangled corruption, outright lies and deception involved in Iraq. This was quite obviously a referendum on the failed Bush presidency. But that alone would not have produced such a major shift in Congress and in the state legislatures.

Reform is the essence of democracy. The sky isn't going to fall, and the Democrats aren't going to go about the evil task of dismantling the church and running roughshod over every social issue of interest to religious conservatives. Having Bush in the White House and a Republican Congress didn't change the 5-4 pro-abortion majority of the Supreme Court, nor did it increase the likelihood that any Supreme Court would ever overturn Roe. This is a centrist, not a leftist, movement.

 

This is the other thing I told my wife. The Dems have the majority. It's time for them to put up or shut up.

Unfortunately, I have no illusion that they will be able to do anything useful either. In fact, I think that they will do everything in their power to make life miserable for GWB at the expense of actually accomplishing anything. I hope I'm wrong.

 

I think this is the single most salient point of this election.
The president led us away from the Christian right, leaving the election results to unbelievers.

 

Good points all Bro. The Republicans had handfuls of issues to campaign on but choose not to. The minimum wage will cripple, but nothing like the repeal of the tax cuts would, though I really don't think the Dems are stupid enough to mess with them, well.........I hope not

The republicans refused to fight the idea that we should withdraw from Iraq with strong arguments. They refused to engage in the debate for privatizing a part of SS.
And Super man (Karl Rove) isn't so smart after all.

 

The Republicans got what they deserved. You cannot pander and promise then act like Democrats.

 

OK, I'll try.....

Speaker of the House Pel..

Pelo...

Pelican...No that's not right....

Pelos.....

Pedrosi...

Pepe......

Peepee...

Penelope....

OH... I just can't bring myself to do it!!!

 

True -- but we can only hope the pendulum will not swing further left of center. If it does, the sky still will not fall, but the divisiveness will be more painful.

This was no more a mandate for the far left than 2004 was for the far right. For all the issues before us, corruption is truly what brought the change -- corruption in government and corporate America.

 

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The republicans lost because they abandoned their conservative base. Laura Ingraham says this is a loss for republicanism, not conservativism. I tend to agree.

 

And again I say:

If a nation must practice torture to preserve it's ideals;
then it doesn't have any ideals worth preserving.