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  1. Konstantin

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    After of the rapture of “Church of the first borne” (Heb. 12:23), a transitional period will come from our time to the Millennium. This period will continue 49 years.

    After the Lord Jesus Christ will be reigned at the end of the seventieth week of Daniel (Rev. 11:17), the kingdoms of this world will become “the kingdomes of our Lord, and of his Christ” (Rev. 11:15). There will be restored Kingdom “to Israel” (Acts.1:6). The Lord Jesus Christ will come “in his glory” (Mat.25:31) with “healing in his wings” (Mal.4:2). “In that day there shalbe a fountaine opened to the house of Dauid, and to the inhabitants of Ierusalem, for sinne, and for vncleannesse” (Zech.13:1). Nature will be also renewed. And “the light of the Sunne shall be seuenfold” (Is. 30:26), and “the lyon shall eate straw like the bullocke” (Is.65:25). But there will still be sin and death on earth: "the sinner being an hundreth yeres old, shalbe accursed" (Is.65:20) Peoples who will not come to fight “against Ierusalem” (Zech.14:12) into “a place, called in the Hebrewe tongue, Armageddon” (Rev. 16:17) will enter in the Millennium. There will be made the new covenant “with the house of Israel, and the house of Iudah” (Heb.8:8). The “royall Law” will come into force (James 2:8) (Matthew 5-7). Israel will receive power and authority to obedience to the faith among all nations in the Millennium. Israel and subsequently believing Gentiles will receive the power to attack all this “power of the enemie” (Luke 10:19); these are the “angels” (Rev. 12: 9) of Satan. Then Israel will receive a command from the Lord Jesus Christ: “¶ Goe ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the Name of the Father, and of the Sonne, and of the holy Ghost: Teaching them to obserue all things, whatsoeuer I haue commanded you: and loe, I am with you alway, euen vnto the end of the world. Amen” (Matthew 28: 19-20).

    After which God will “gone vp with a shout” (Ps.47:5) “into heaven” (Mark.16:19). The Father will say to the Son: “Sit thou at my right hand: vntil I make thine enemies thy footestoole” (Ps.110:1). The Scripture says: “For he (the Son) must reigne, till hee (the Father) hath put all enemies vnder his (Son’s) feete” (1Cor.15:25). And He has set down (Mark.16:19).

    “God sitteth vpon the throne of his holinesse” (Ps.47:8)

    “God is the King of all the earth” (Ps.47:7)

    Scripture tells to the Millennium believers: “Honour the King” (1Pet.2:17)

    From now on, Israel will “see heauen open, and the Angels of God ascending, and descending vpon the sonne of man” (John 1:51), upon them. This is the ministry of the Church of God in this period of time. Due to the fact that Satan will be bound (Rev. 20:2), and cast “into the bottomlesse pit” (Rev.20:3), competition between people will be weaken on Earth; there will be no international conflicts and wars. Therefore, every one “of all the nations” (Zech.14:16), who will enter into the Millennium, “shall beate their swords into plow-shares” (Is.2:4). In those days “ten men shall take holde out of all languages of the nations, euen shall take hold of the skirt of him that is a Iew” (Zech.8:23), because salvation will be “of the Iewes” (John.4:22).

    At the end of the Millennium, Israel will again depart from God.

    Scripture says:

    “Studie to shewe thy selfe approued vnto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly diuiding the word of trueth” (2Tim.2:15) KJV1611AV

    This is not Paul’s wish or recommendation to Timothy, this is God's command to people who seek the truth.
     
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    Gobbledygook
     
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    Have you fallen from the Moon or from Mars?
     
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    What is thy name?
     
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    Here's the real Millennium (1,000 years), with leading to and after events:

    End Time Prophecy Seminar 13 - Armageddon & The 7 Last Plagues

    Presentation 13 – Armageddon & The 7 Last Plagues (PowerPoint)
    Healthy Soul Presentation 12 – Depression (PowerPoint)
    Questions & Answers 09 (PowerPoint)



    End Time Prophecy Seminar 14 - Hope For The Millennium & Revelation's Grand Finale

    Presentation 14 – Hope For The Millennium & Revelation’s Grand Finale (PowerPoint) - http://sdamaranathachurch.org/wp-cont...



    There will be no Millennium on the broken down earth for mankind to dwell on. All the wicked among mankind who are alive will be slain by Jesus coming, the 7 last plagues, the mightiest earthquake, the atmosphere being shredded, and the sun and moon being moved out of heir places. Only satan and his evil angels will be alive on the earth (pit/abusso) amidst the ruins, as a prison, for 1000 years.

    All the righteous, from Abel to the last will have been taken to Heaven for that duration, and only return to the earth after the 1000 years.

    Texts already provided in the video and powerpoints. Peruse them wisely. Any questions, ask.
     
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    Satan and his angels (Rev. 12: 9) will be cast out into the earth (Rev. 12:9) before the beginning of the seven last plagues (Rev. 15: 1). These seven last plagues pour out before the second coming of the Lord Jesus Christ. Satan will be cast into “the bottomlesse pit” (Rev. 20: 3) after the seven last plagues, i.e. after the second coming of the Lord Jesus Christ. The bottomlesse pit (Rev. 20: 3) and the earth (Rev. 12: 9) are two different places. Between the event from (Rev. 20: 3) and the event from (Rev. 12: 9) there is a certain period of time. In addition, Satan's angels will not be cast into the bottomlesse pit, but will remain on the earth. And Adventists do not know where to put the word “straw” from (Is.65:25). There will be no straw in eternity. But it will be in the Millennium.

    Given these facts, we can say that Mr. composes fables (1 Tim. 1: 4) in the video.
     
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    I can state that you didn't even bother to watch the material in the video, by making the statement that you did. When you watch the video, you'll see what I mean.
     
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    Yes, I didn’t look. I know in great detail the Adventist doctrine. Watching again does not make sense.
     
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    Thank you for the tacit admission. Secondly, please explain the "Adventist doctrine" (sic), which you say "does not make sense".
     
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    These are the works of E. White. You know that. But you say "We believe in Bible". Everyone says like that. But today we have thousands of doctrines.
     
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    What are the "works of E. White"? Are you referring to the material in the videos? If so, where, at what time indexes? Can you be more specific?

    Sounds like an aprioric assertion to me.

    Not only "We" (sic), but also "I" believe the Bible (KJB). I wouldn't be a Christian if I didn't.

    Actually no. There are plenty of people that call themselves 'christian' these days which deny whole words, phrases, chapters, books and even authors of the Bible. Some go so far as to deny all of Paul. Many reject 'Moses', and/or Genesis, the Flood, etc. The Jesuits even deny the physical resurrection of Jesus Christ (it's in print).

    Yes, all thanks to that Great Whore, the religion of Roman Catholicism, of Revelation 17.
     
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    I already told you that I did not watch your video. Did I say something vaguely? I opened this topic. If you have questions, then ask them on my topic. Do you want me to watch your video and ask you questions?
     
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    I placed the videos in contradistinction to the gross error of the OP. If you do not respond to the material, what was the point of the OP? If you do not desire to watch the video, I also provided a written response in the form of a powerpoint, which is simple enough to follow. I even briefly summarized both in a simple paragraph.
     
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    Already happened, at the time (circa) the creation of Adam and Eve.

    Rev_12:9 And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.

    Gen_3:1 Now the serpent was more subtil than any beast of the field which the LORD God had made. And he said unto the woman, Yea, hath God said, Ye shall not eat of every tree of the garden?​

    God had (past tense) already found iniquity in Lucifer in Heavenly Eden, whom later ruled behind the scenes as the real 'king of Tyrus' (just as he was also the 'prince [ruler] of Persia' (Daniel 10:13, etc), and God speaks to Ezekiel of these events:

    Eze 28:12 Son of man, take up a lamentation upon the king of Tyrus, and say unto him, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Thou sealest up the sum, full of wisdom, and perfect in beauty.
    Eze 28:13 Thou hast been in Eden the garden of God; every precious stone was thy covering, the sardius, topaz, and the diamond, the beryl, the onyx, and the jasper, the sapphire, the emerald, and the carbuncle, and gold: the workmanship of thy tabrets and of thy pipes was prepared in thee in the day that thou wast created.
    Eze 28:14 Thou art the anointed cherub that covereth; and I have set thee so: thou wast upon the holy mountain of God; thou hast walked up and down in the midst of the stones of fire.
    Eze 28:15 Thou wast perfect in thy ways from the day that thou wast created, till iniquity was found in thee.
    Eze 28:16 By the multitude of thy merchandise they have filled the midst of thee with violence, and thou hast sinned: therefore I will cast thee as profane out of the mountain of God: and I will destroy thee, O covering cherub, from the midst of the stones of fire.
    Eze 28:17 Thine heart was lifted up because of thy beauty, thou hast corrupted thy wisdom by reason of thy brightness: I will cast thee to the ground, I will lay thee before kings, that they may behold thee.
    Eze 28:18 Thou hast defiled thy sanctuaries by the multitude of thine iniquities, by the iniquity of thy traffick; therefore will I bring forth a fire from the midst of thee, it shall devour thee, and I will bring thee to ashes upon the earth in the sight of all them that behold thee.
    Eze 28:19 All they that know thee among the people shall be astonished at thee: thou shalt be a terror, and never shalt thou be any more.
    Then, after satan became the 'god of this world' (circa 6200~ years ago) (2 Corinthians 4:4; in Adam's place, as he handed it over to him through sin, Genesis 3:5), and was able to travel back to Heaven as representative of this world (Job 1 & 2; 1 Kings 22; 2 Chronicles 18), it lasted as such until Calvary, in which Jesus reclaimed the world through his sacrifice and shed blood [AD 31], and satan was "cast down" (from rulership of this world, as he had already been "cast out" of Heaven way before):

    Rev 12:10 And I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, Now is come salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of his Christ: for the accuser of our brethren is cast down, which accused them before our God day and night.

    Rom 5:6 For when we were yet without strength, in due time Christ died for the ungodly.
    Jesus even said:

    Luk 10:17 And the seventy returned again with joy, saying, Lord, even the devils are subject unto us through thy name.
    Luk 10:18 And he said unto them, I beheld Satan as lightning fall from heaven.
    Luk 10:19 Behold, I give unto you power to tread on serpents and scorpions, and over all the power of the enemy: and nothing shall by any means hurt you.
    Luk 10:20 Notwithstanding in this rejoice not, that the spirits are subject unto you; but rather rejoice, because your names are written in heaven.
    Jesus was already then conquering Satan's kingdom, and the casting out was not merely from his usurped place in Heaven (from Adam the first), but also from the hearts and minds of mankind (beginning a Jesus Baptism, AD 27).

    Satan is trapped down here already, though has access to high altitude (Ephesians 2:2), yet even so, he has no access back to the gates/courts of Heaven:

    1Pe_5:8 Be sober, be vigilant; because your adversary the devil, as a roaring lion, walketh about, seeking whom he may devour:​

    Where does the "devil" "walketh about"? On Earth (Job 1:7, 2:2). We are down here in the 'pit' (earth, just look up the two terms together) with him, just as surely as Daniel was.
     
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    Yes, we do, and I provided all of the texts in the video, as well as the powerpoint. The "straw" (grass) will be in eternity (New Heavens & New Earth), not the millennium (2 Thessalonians 2:8; 2 Peter 3:10-11), notice:

    HOPE FOR THE MILLENNIUM

    Let’s PRAY before we begin to study God’s word.

    Jesus spoke of His return when speaking to His disciples, and said in John 14:1-3:

    Joh 14:1 Let not your heart be troubled: ye believe in God, believe also in me.

    Joh 14:2 In my Father's house are many mansions: if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you.

    Joh 14:3 And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again, and receive you unto myself; that where I am, there ye may be also. ​

    Satan and the people of the world from the time of Adam’s fall until now, the last 6,000 years, have laboured under the bondage of sin and death.

    Yet the Bible, in Revelation 20:1-7, gives a promise of Blessed HOPE, for it speaks about a time coming, very soon, in which there will be a 1,000 years Sabbath of rest for all who have accepted the offer of God in Christ Jesus!

    In Revelation 20:1-2 we read:

    Rev 20:1 And I saw an angel come down from heaven, having the key of the bottomless pit and a great chain in his hand.

    Rev 20:2 And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan, and bound him a thousand years, ​

    Angels have supernatural strength and ability (Acts 12:7) and able to easily remove chains.

    Therefore, how can a “chain” bind the devil, a fallen angel, since even men possessed of the devil easily break chains of iron, as in the events of the demoniac possessed with the Legion in Mark 5:3-4; Luke 8:29?

    The “chain” with which the Messenger of the Father comes down with is no ordinary chain of iron, but rather is the chain of omnipotent providence and circumstance!

    In Psalms 73:6 we read:

    Psa 73:6 Therefore pride compasseth them about as a chain; violence covereth them as a garment.​

    In Lamentations 3:7 we read:

    Lam 3:7 He hath hedged me about, that I cannot get out: he hath made my chain heavy.​

    In Jude 1:6 we read:

    Jud 1:6 And the angels which kept not their first estate, but left their own habitation, he hath reserved in everlasting chains under darkness unto the judgment of the great day.​

    Satan’s reign of terror which has gone on for these last 6,000 years, in his onslaught of selfishness in delighting in cruelty, destruction, misery, crime, war and death will be brought to a grinding halt for 1,000 years.

    The 1,000 Years of Revelation 20:1-7, is also known as the “Millennium” by many, which comes from two Latin words, “milli” meaning ‘1000’, and “annum” meaning ‘years’. This 1,000 years is the fullness of “THE DAY OF THE LORD” (Psalms 84:10, 90:4; 2 Peter 3:8).

    The war that begun in Heaven (Revelation 12:7-9) will ultimately end on Earth (Proverbs 11:31; Revelation 20:8-15).

    The Great Controversy that has raged for so long, will not truly come to its end until the 1,000 years comes to its close, but before we look at those events, we need to consider what happens at the beginning of the 1,000 years.

    In the Epistle of 1 Thessalonians 4:16 we read:

    1Th 4:16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first: ​

    And in the Gospel of John 5:28-29 we read:

    Joh 5:28 Marvel not at this: for the hour is coming, in the which all that are in the graves shall hear his voice,

    Joh 5:29 And shall come forth; they that have done good, unto the resurrection of life; and they that have done evil, unto the resurrection of damnation. ​

    There are Two Great general Resurrections in scripture:

    1. Resurrection of life for those who have done good.

    2. Resurrection of damnation for those who have done evil.​

    When will these Two Great Resurrections take place? John already tells us that the Resurrection of Life for those who have done good comes first, but when exactly will this happen? And what of the other Resurrection?

    In Revelation 20:6 we read:

    Rev 20:6 Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years. ​

    And in 1 Thessalonians 4:17 we read:

    1Th 4:17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord. ​

    In 1 Corinthians 15:51-53 we read:

    1Co 15:51 Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed,

    1Co 15:52 In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.

    1Co 15:53 For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality. ​

    The Redeemed, whether they are resurrected from the sleep of death or translated alive from among the living, will have perfect immortal glorified bodies given to them. They shall be even as the celestial bodies of the angelic beings (Matthew 22:30; Mark 12:25; 1 Corinthians 15:40) and fashioned as Jesus’ glorious body (Philippians 3:21), and so they will never again be subject to disease, decay or death! O glorious thought!, O wondrous promise of our loving Father in Heaven! We will be as though we had never sinned, able to stand in His presence face to face at last! O rapturous joy, what blessed hope we have in Christ Jesus, our LORD and Saviour and Friend!
     
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    Yes, we do, and I provided all of the texts in the video, as well as the powerpoint. The "straw" (grass) will be in eternity (New Heavens & New Earth), not the millennium (2 Thessalonians 2:8; 2 Peter 3:10-11), notice:

    What will the glorified saints do for 1,000 years in Heaven when they return with Jesus to the Father?

    In Daniel 7:22 we read:

    Dan 7:22 “… and judgment was given to the saints of the most High …”​

    And so likewise in parallel by John in Revelation 20:4, we read:

    Rev 20:4 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years. ​

    As it is also written in 1 Corinthians 6:2-3:

    1Co 6:2 Do ye not know that the saints shall judge the world? and if the world shall be judged by you, are ye unworthy to judge the smallest matters?

    1Co 6:3 Know ye not that we shall judge angels? how much more things that pertain to this life?​

    Why will the hearts of the lost need to be examined at this time if their lives are already forfeited, having rejected the offer of eternal life in Christ Jesus and the wages of sin is death?

    God’s judgments and character will be vindicated in examining the records (Psalms 51:4; Romans 3:4) about who was Redeemed and who was Lost, for while only God may read the heart, men and angels may read the recorded sayings and deeds. There will also be seen in the word of God (John 12:48), the punishments for the crimes committed which will have to be measured out (Luke 23:41; Ecclesiastes 12:13-14) before the sentence of eternal death is executed.

    For as Jesus once suffered for sin and died (Hebrews 9:26; 1 Peter 3:18), so likewise will those who have rejected the offer in Christ, suffer for their sins and then perish in the 2nd death, each according to their respective deeds done in the body, for God is Just.

    So it is now written in 1 Corinthians 4:5:

    1Co 4:5 Therefore judge nothing before the time, until the Lord come, who both will bring to light the hidden things of darkness, and will make manifest the counsels of the hearts: and then shall every man have praise of God. ​

    And in Revelation 16:7, we read:

    Rev_16:7 And I heard another out of the altar say, Even so, Lord God Almighty, true and righteous are thy judgments.​

    What will happen to the unrighteous who are still alive at Jesus 2nd coming, and what about all of those rebellious persons who died since the time of Cain?

    In Revelation 6:15-17 we read:

    Rev 6:15 And the kings of the earth, and the great men, and the rich men, and the chief captains, and the mighty men, and every bondman, and every free man, hid themselves in the dens and in the rocks of the mountains;

    Rev 6:16 And said to the mountains and rocks, Fall on us, and hide us from the face of him that sitteth on the throne, and from the wrath of the Lamb:

    Rev 6:17 “For the great day of his wrath is come …”​

    For those who have rejected Jesus are so terrified of His Holiness, His Righteousness and His fiery Love, that they would rather be buried at the bottom of the mountains than face Him and their own wicked deeds in His glorious Light; for they loved darkness rather than Light.

    For when Jesus Christ shall come in the glory of His Father and in His own glory and the glory of all the holy angels with Him (Luke 9:26), there shall be a terrible slaughter from one end of the earth to another, as we read in Jeremiah 25:30-33:

    Jer 25:30 Therefore prophesy thou against them all these words, and say unto them, The LORD shall roar from on high, and utter his voice from his holy habitation; he shall mightily roar upon his habitation; he shall give a shout, as they that tread the grapes, against all the inhabitants of the earth.

    Jer 25:31 A noise shall come even to the ends of the earth; for the LORD hath a controversy with the nations, he will plead with all flesh; he will give them that are wicked to the sword, saith the LORD.

    Jer 25:32 Thus saith the LORD of hosts, Behold, evil shall go forth from nation to nation, and a great whirlwind shall be raised up from the coasts of the earth.

    Jer 25:33 And the slain of the LORD shall be at that day from one end of the earth even unto the other end of the earth: they shall not be lamented, neither gathered, nor buried; they shall be dung upon the ground.​

    The unrepentant which are destroyed by the brightness of Jesus 2nd coming shall lie as corpses upon the earth, with none to bury them and no one to mourn them. The righteous will have all been taken to Heaven by Jesus, and only Satan and his angels will remain alive upon the earth to witness the results of their deeds and government.

    Is this the final end of the sinner at Jesus 2nd advent? What about all those rebellious who were already dead from the time of Cain till then?

    In Isaiah 24:22 we read:

    Isa 24:22 And they shall be gathered together, as prisoners are gathered in the pit, and shall be shut up in the prison, and after many days shall they be visited.​

    And in Revelation 20:5 we read:

    Rev 20:5 “But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. …”​

    Therefore, we see that all the wicked who have ever lived have yet to face the final phase of God’s Judgment, and are merely left on earth (as Satan and his angels) or (as rebel mankind) are either left or placed into the prison house of the grave until the time comes at the end of the 1,000 years, for the full execution of Justice.

    With the saints and Jesus all gone to back to the Father in Heaven, and the unrighteous among mankind all dead, and Satan and his angels trapped upon the plague-wracked earth, what is the condition of the world to be for 1,000 years?

    In the writings of the Prophet Jeremiah 4:23-27 we read:

    Jer 4:23 I beheld the earth, and, lo, it was without form, and void; and the heavens, and they had no light.

    Jer 4:24 I beheld the mountains, and, lo, they trembled, and all the hills moved lightly.

    Jer 4:25 I beheld, and, lo, there was no man, and all the birds of the heavens were fled.

    Jer 4:26 I beheld, and, lo, the fruitful place was a wilderness, and all the cities thereof were broken down at the presence of the LORD, and by his fierce anger.

    Jer 4:27 For thus hath the LORD said, The whole land shall be desolate; yet will I not make a full end.​

    The earth will be in a similar chaotic condition as it was in Genesis.

    In Genesis 1:2 we similarly read:

    Gen 1:2 “And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. …”​

    While on the isle of Patmos the Apostle John, in vision, saw the earth in an utterly desolate condition for 1,000 years, but the Spirit of the LORD did not leave him with such a solemn, depressing and awful sight.
     
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    Yes, we do, and I provided all of the texts in the video, as well as the powerpoint. The "straw" (grass) will be in eternity (New Heavens & New Earth), not the millennium (2 Thessalonians 2:8; 2 Peter 3:10-11), notice:

    For God now showed John what was to come nearing the end of the 1,000 years, and it was as glorious and bright to behold as the second coming of Jesus!

    The third Advent of Jesus to this earth, coming back with all the Redeemed, was to endcap the Day of the LORD in brighter glory yet still to end the Great Controversy once and for all! Satan, Sin and Selfishness is to have an utter end and not arise up the second time!!!

    In the book of Revelation 21:10 we read:

    Rev 21:10 And he carried me away in the spirit to a great and high mountain, and shewed me that great city, the holy Jerusalem, descending out of heaven from God,​

    And in Revelation 21:2 we read:

    Rev 21:2 And I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband.​

    Beaming as a polished and precious jewel, radiant with the eternal Light of JEHOVAH’s own glory and love – there was shown to the humble apostle of love, John, God’s city -- the New Jerusalem, descending out of the Heavens with the fullness of awesome splendour of Divine Majesty. What penmen can truly portray this scene? What words in mankind’s varied tongues could possibly describe this?! Only by the eye of faith, the mind filled with blessed hope and the heart overflowing with love for God can such a thing even begun to be grasped. The music of the Heavenly choirs that must attend this event are unheard of in the eternity past, for nothing from time immemorial until this, has ever occurred. God, manifest in human flesh, comes to dwell with mankind forever – never to be separated again!

    Shouts of praise, “Alleluia; Salvation, and glory, and honour, and power, unto the Lord our God” make the pillars of the city to ring!

    In Revelation 21:11-27, we read a description:

    Rev 21:11 Having the glory of God: and her light was like unto a stone most precious, even like a jasper stone, clear as crystal;

    Rev 21:12 And had a wall great and high, and had twelve gates, and at the gates twelve angels, and names written thereon, which are the names of the twelve tribes of the children of Israel:

    Rev 21:13 On the east three gates; on the north three gates; on the south three gates; and on the west three gates.

    Rev 21:14 And the wall of the city had twelve foundations, and in them the names of the twelve apostles of the Lamb.

    Rev 21:15 And he that talked with me had a golden reed to measure the city, and the gates thereof, and the wall thereof.

    Rev 21:16 And the city lieth foursquare, and the length is as large as the breadth: and he measured the city with the reed, twelve thousand furlongs. The length and the breadth and the height of it are equal.

    Rev 21:17 And he measured the wall thereof, an hundred and forty and four cubits, according to the measure of a man, that is, of the angel.

    Rev 21:18 And the building of the wall of it was of jasper: and the city was pure gold, like unto clear glass.

    Rev 21:19 And the foundations of the wall of the city were garnished with all manner of precious stones. The first foundation was jasper; the second, sapphire; the third, a chalcedony; the fourth, an emerald;

    Rev 21:20 The fifth, sardonyx; the sixth, sardius; the seventh, chrysolite; the eighth, beryl; the ninth, a topaz; the tenth, a chrysoprasus; the eleventh, a jacinth; the twelfth, an amethyst.

    Rev 21:21 And the twelve gates were twelve pearls; every several gate was of one pearl: and the street of the city was pure gold, as it were transparent glass.

    Rev 21:22 And I saw no temple therein: for the Lord God Almighty and the Lamb are the temple of it.

    Rev 21:23 And the city had no need of the sun, neither of the moon, to shine in it: for the glory of God did lighten it, and the Lamb is the light thereof.

    Rev 21:24 And the nations of them which are saved shall walk in the light of it: and the kings of the earth do bring their glory and honour into it.

    Rev 21:25 And the gates of it shall not be shut at all by day: for there shall be no night there.

    Rev 21:26 And they shall bring the glory and honour of the nations into it.

    Rev 21:27 And there shall in no wise enter into it any thing that defileth, neither whatsoever worketh abomination, or maketh a lie: but they which are written in the Lamb's book of life.​

    O friends! Do you see it in your mind’s eye? Can you hear the songs of the Redeemed mingled with the Angelic throng by faith? Has your sanctified imagination caught even the smallest glimpse of the unsurpassed glory? If not, ask God even now to help you, “LORD”, “Open thou mine eyes, that I may behold wondrous things out of thy law.” (Psalms 119:18)

    The color arrangement of the foundation stones are as the appearance of a giant rainbow – the very symbol of God’s eternal Covenant!

    This will be the eternal reminder to all that God will never again destroy the Earth. O, the promises of God are as unfailing as His love! What has God not given that we might be there?! What more shall we wait for? What more dare we ask?

    What city on this present earth compares to this?! What life in this present evil world can possibly be its equal, let alone it superior?!

    There is none friends, as there is presently down here no such continuing and everlasting city and Kingdom as is coming.

    Some have thought the saints go to Heaven and float on puffy clouds, doing nothing, and being nothing but wispy smoke, while others have thought the saints will rule down here on earth over the wicked for 1,000 years, and with various shades of ideas in between.

    There is nowhere in scripture in which it states or implies that the saints will inherit empty clouds and airy nothings, nor is there a single place in scripture in which the saints inherit this present evil world at any time. Some have taken the texts which say that the saints inherit the earth and wrongly combine them with texts which say that the saints reign with Christ Jesus 1,000 years. Read any of the contexts of those verses and they are speaking of two differing events at two differing locations.

    There are two reigns, one leading into the other:

    [1] The “thousand years” reign “in Heaven”

    [2] The “reign on earth” [when “made new”, never this sin polluted Earth] that lasts “forever and ever” that comes after the 1,000 years in Heaven.​

    One can think of it like the Kings reigns of old, first comes the Ascension Reign and then comes the Fullness of the Reign.
     
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    Alofa Atu Well-Known Member

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    Yes, we do, and I provided all of the texts in the video, as well as the powerpoint. The "straw" (grass) will be in eternity (New Heavens & New Earth), not the millennium (2 Thessalonians 2:8; 2 Peter 3:10-11), notice:

    Since that is so, what happens to the wicked dead at the end of the 1,000 years when Jesus and all the saints return to this earth in New Jerusalem?

    Zec 14:3 Then shall the LORD go forth, and fight against those nations, as when he fought in the day of battle.

    Zec 14:4 And his feet shall stand in that day upon the mount of Olives, which is before Jerusalem on the east, and the mount of Olives shall cleave in the midst thereof toward the east and toward the west, and there shall be a very great valley; and half of the mountain shall remove toward the north, and half of it toward the south. ​

    In John 5:29 we read:

    Joh 5:29 “And [they] shall come forth; … they that have done evil, unto the resurrection of damnation.”​

    In Revelation 20:8-9 we read:

    Rev 20:8 “… the number of whom is as the sand of the sea.”

    Rev 20:9 “And they went up on the breadth of the earth, and compassed the camp of the saints about, and the beloved city …” ​

    All the wicked who ever once lived, since the time of Cain, are raised from the prison of the grave to face the sentence and execution of Judgment, for having refused the offer of Mercy in Christ Jesus, they of their own selves must bear the finality of the punishment.

    “In that vast throng are multitudes of the long-lived race that existed before the Flood; men of lofty stature and giant intellect, who, yielding to the control of fallen angels, devoted all their skill and knowledge to the exaltation of themselves; men whose wonderful works of art led the world to idolize their genius, but whose cruelty and evil inventions, defiling the earth and defacing the image of God, caused Him to blot them from the face of His creation. There are kings and generals who conquered nations, valiant men who never lost a battle, proud, ambitious warriors whose approach made kingdoms tremble. In death these experienced no change. As they come up from the grave, they resume the current of their thoughts just where it ceased. They are actuated by the same desire to conquer that ruled them when they fell.”​

    Satan will seize this opportunity to make one final and desperate bid for supremacy.

    In Revelation 20:7-8 we read:

    Rev 20:7 And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison,

    Rev 20:8 And shall go out to deceive the nations which are in the four quarters of the earth, Gog and Magog, to gather them together to battle: the number of whom is as the sand of the sea. ​

    Satan, true to his own perverted character, that he had been perfecting for the last 6,000 years since his own fall, appears to deceive these nations one last time; to rally them to take the city of God on his behalf.

    The last Battle, the final Controversy, between Righteousness and Wickedness, between Truth and Error, between Love and Selfishness, unfolds as foretold by the Holy Spirit of the Living God.

    Just as the combined forces of evil, the unholy league of fallen angels and depraved mankind, are about to strike, God lifts Himself up to do His strange work and to bring to pass His strange act. He must cleanse the universe of all sin, or all would perish.

    The Great White Throne of God is seen above all, and He passes His eyes from the open books before Him to the creatures below, and the scenes of Bethlehem to Gethsemane and Calvary appear before all.

    Every being that has rejected God, including the arch-rebel Satan, knows that their cause is hopelessly lost.

    They clearly see that by a life sin and treason against the Just rule of Him who is Love itself; even in the face of His long-suffering toward them, they have excluded themselves from the eternal kingdom. They have desired death rather than life, and they turn upon satan and one another.

    In Matthew 25:41 we read:

    Mat 25:41 Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels: ​

    In 2 Peter 3:10 we read:

    2Pe 3:10 “… the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.”​

    In Revelation 20:9 we read:

    Rev 20:9 “… and fire came down from God out of heaven, and devoured them.”​

    If man rejects God and His offer, to forgive us and cleanse us from all unrighteousness, What more can be done?

    Jesus said He was going to “prepare a place” for those who believed and followed Him, and that when He ascended to Heaven, He would come again to claim His own, but if mankind rejects God and His salvation in Christ Jesus and chooses to continue to follow Satan, that person will also share in the fate of the devil and his angels.

    The destruction by fire, will be as it was in the days of Lot:

    In Jude 1:7 we read:

    Jud 1:7 Even as Sodom and Gomorrha, and the cities about them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire.​

    The inhabitants of Sodom and Gomorrah had become so vile that they had to be destroyed, lest other nations around them become infected with the same perversions and diseases.

    God in mercy, delivering Lot and his family out, then executed Judgment.

    In Genesis 19:24-25 & 28 we read:

    Gen 19:24 Then the LORD rained upon Sodom and upon Gomorrah brimstone and fire from the LORD out of heaven;

    Gen 19:25 And he overthrew those cities, and all the plain, and all the inhabitants of the cities, and that which grew upon the ground.

    Gen 19:28 “… and, lo, the smoke of the country went up as the smoke of a furnace.”​

    The Bible tells us that everyone and everything was completely destroyed, even unto the grass surrounding those cities.

    Jude said those cities were destroyed by “eternal fire”.

    Are they still burning now? Of course they are not, but the sentence and judgment are final. The results are eternal, for God is the one who destroys the wicked, and He is a consuming and eternal fire, and the wicked shall swallow it down and be as though they had never been (see Obadiah 1:16) and shalt not be any more (see Ezekiel 28:19).

    For God shall make an utter end of sin, and affliction shall not rise up a second time (see Nahum 1:9).

    Peter said the destruction of those cities was an example to us of what is in store for those who live ungodly lives,…

    In 2 Peter 2:6 we read:

    2Pe 2:6 And turning the cities of Sodom and Gomorrha into ashes condemned them with an overthrow, making them an ensample unto those that after should live ungodly;​

    In Malachi 4:1 & 3 we read:

    Mal 4:1 For, behold, the day cometh, that shall burn as an oven; and all the proud, yea, and all that do wickedly, shall be stubble: and the day that cometh shall burn them up, saith the LORD of hosts, that it shall leave them neither root nor branch.

    Mal 4:3 And ye shall tread down the wicked; for they shall be ashes under the soles of your feet in the day that I shall do this, saith the LORD of hosts.​
     
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    Alofa Atu Well-Known Member

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    Yes, we do, and I provided all of the texts in the video, as well as the powerpoint. The "straw" (grass) will be in eternity (New Heavens & New Earth), not the millennium (2 Thessalonians 2:8; 2 Peter 3:10-11), notice:

    Only God will know the fullness of sorrow for the children He once knew, but that are now lost to Him forever.

    Even so, God has not forgotten His promise to the righteous in regards the inheritance.

    In 2 Peter 3:13 we read:

    2Pe 3:13 Nevertheless we, according to his promise, look for new heavens and a new earth, wherein dwelleth righteousness.​

    In Revelation 21:1 we read:

    Rev 21:1 And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea.​

    In Isaiah 65:17 we read:

    Isa 65:17 For, behold, I create new heavens and a new earth: and the former shall not be remembered, nor come into mind.​

    What John saw in vision, we, if faithful to our calling in Christ Jesus, will come to experience in reality very soon, for the events of this world are almost finished.

    For what God began, He will surely Finish, being he Author and Finisher of our faith.

    For the end is even more spectacular than at the beginning, for when God creates the New Heaven and Earth, all the faithful will be there to witness it and within it will stand the New Jerusalem as the capital city of the universe!

    In scripture we read:

    Mat 5:5 Blessed are the meek: for they shall inherit the earth.

    Psa 37:11 “… and shall delight themselves in the abundance of peace.”

    1Co 2:9 “… as it is written, Eye hath not seen, nor ear heard, neither have entered into the heart of man, the things which God hath prepared for them that love him.”​

    Continuing …

    Dan 2:44 “… the God of heaven set up a kingdom, which shall never be destroyed: and the kingdom shall not be left to other people, … and it shall stand for ever.”

    Dan 7:18 “… the saints of the most High shall take the kingdom, and possess the kingdom for ever, even for ever and ever.”​

    And in Matthew 25:34-36 we read:

    Mat 25:34 “Then shall the King say, … Come, ye blessed of my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world:”

    Mat 25:35 For I was an hungred, and ye gave me meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me drink: I was a stranger, and ye took me in:

    Mat 25:36 Naked, and ye clothed me: I was sick, and ye visited me: I was in prison, and ye came unto me.​

    For in Isaiah 35:1-2 we read:

    Isa 35:1 The wilderness and the solitary place shall be glad for them; and the desert shall rejoice, and blossom as the rose.

    Isa 35:2 It shall blossom abundantly, and rejoice even with joy and singing: the glory of Lebanon shall be given unto it, the excellency of Carmel and Sharon, they shall see the glory of the LORD, and the excellency of our God.​

    World without sin. World without end. Everlasting Joy, Peace, and Love. A world where we can see our Father and His Son Christ Jesus face to face with no more veil in between.

    In Isaiah 33:24 and in Isaiah 35:5-6 we read:

    Isa 33:24 And the inhabitant shall not say, I am sick: the people that dwell therein shall be forgiven their iniquity.

    Isa 35:5 Then the eyes of the blind shall be opened, and the ears of the deaf shall be unstopped.

    Isa 35:6 Then shall the lame man leap as an hart, and the tongue of the dumb sing: for in the wilderness shall waters break out, and streams in the desert.​

    The Redeemed will be able to drink from the pure water of the river of life that flows from the Throne of God and to eat from the tree of life every month. Flowers that will never fade, scenes that will ever refresh the heart and lead our thoughts to our loving Creator!

    In Revelation 21:1 and in Isaiah 33:20-21 we read:

    Rev 21:1 “ … for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea.”

    Isa 33:20 Look upon Zion, the city of our solemnities: thine eyes shall see Jerusalem a quiet habitation, a tabernacle that shall not be taken down; not one of the stakes thereof shall ever be removed, neither shall any of the cords thereof be broken.

    Isa 33:21 But there the glorious LORD will be unto us a place of broad rivers and streams; wherein shall go no galley with oars, neither shall gallant ship pass thereby.​

    In Revelation 22:1-3 we read:

    Rev 22:1 And he shewed me a pure river of water of life, clear as crystal, proceeding out of the throne of God and of the Lamb.

    Rev 22:2 In the midst of the street of it, and on either side of the river, was there the tree of life, which bare twelve manner of fruits, and yielded her fruit every month: and the leaves of the tree were for the healing of the nations.

    Rev 22:3 And there shall be no more curse: but the throne of God and of the Lamb shall be in it; and his servants shall serve him:​

    God will abundantly supply all our need of love.

    In Isaiah 60:18 and 11:6-9 we read:

    Isa 60:18 Violence shall no more be heard in thy land, wasting nor destruction within thy borders; but thou shalt call thy walls Salvation, and thy gates Praise.

    Isa 11:6 The wolf also shall dwell with the lamb, and the leopard shall lie down with the kid; and the calf and the young lion and the fatling together; and a little child shall lead them.

    Isa 11:7 And the cow and the bear shall feed; their young ones shall lie down together: and the lion shall eat straw like the ox.

    Isa 11:8 And the sucking child shall play on the hole of the asp, and the weaned child shall put his hand on the cockatrice' den.

    Isa 11:9 They shall not hurt nor destroy in all my holy mountain: for the earth shall be full of the knowledge of the LORD, as the waters cover the sea.​

    Peace and Harmony. The Lion and the Lamb together.
     
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    Yes, we do, and I provided all of the texts in the video, as well as the powerpoint. The "straw" (grass) will be in eternity (New Heavens & New Earth), not the millennium (2 Thessalonians 2:8; 2 Peter 3:10-11), notice:

    The Great Controversy is ended.

    “… they shall beat their swords into plowshares, and their spears into pruninghooks: nation shall not lift up sword against nation, neither shall they learn war any more.” (Isaiah 2:4)​

    Rest, everlasting rest!

    No more worries, doubts or fears.

    In Revelation 21:3-5 we read:

    Rev 21:3 And I heard a great voice out of heaven saying, Behold, the tabernacle of God is with men, and he will dwell with them, and they shall be his people, and God himself shall be with them, and be their God.

    Rev 21:4 And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away.

    Rev 21:5 And he that sat upon the throne said, Behold, I make all things new. And he said unto me, Write: for these words are true and faithful.​

    God’s eternal Throne of Government, to rule all the perfect universe, will be from this New Earth. What a privilege! What unfailing mercies of God! Where sin and death once reigned, will be the seat of righteousness and life for ever more.

    In Revelation 22:4 and Isaiah 65:21-22 we read:

    Rev 22:4 And they shall see his face; and his name shall be in their foreheads.

    Isa 65:21 And they shall build houses, and inhabit them; and they shall plant vineyards, and eat the fruit of them.

    Isa 65:22 They shall not build, and another inhabit; they shall not plant, and another eat: for as the days of a tree are the days of my people, and mine elect shall long enjoy the work of their hands.​

    The Garden of Eden will be restored., where God will once more walk with mankind in the cool of the day.

    Just think of taking hold of the hand of God with your own hand!

    Could anything be more awesome, more satisfying?

    We shall finally be Home. Eternally home, in a land that is fairer than day, where a “pure river of life, clear as crystal” proceeds “out of the throne of God and of the Lamb.”

    A place where every faculty of the inquisitive mind will be developed, and every power of the machinery of the body brought to its full development.

    We will build our own houses and live in them. Not like the temporary musty houses we dwell in today, No, no, but rather eternally living homes of greens and blues, and all manner of colours! Imagine walls of flowers and every kind of sweet fragrance to delight the senses. Think of carpets of the softest living green, that will never fade or wear way! Think of the solid arches of the branches and bowers of majestic trees of every sort! O friends, can you see yourself there? Inside of the arms of God, knowing that you are His forever?

    Streams of living water always flowing sweetly by. Gentle breezes blowing in the kindly warm sunshine, rustling the leaves of the tall trees, where the birds sing their songs of praises to the glory of their Creator!

    Home at last, in the almighty arms of Jesus our Saviour. For He said, “… I will come again, and receive you unto myself …” (John 14:3)

    In Isaiah 66:22-23 and 35:10 we read:

    Isa 66:21 And I will also take of them for priests and for Levites, saith the LORD.

    Isa 66:22 For as the new heavens and the new earth, which I will make, shall remain before me, saith the LORD, so shall your seed and your name remain.

    Isa 35:10 And the ransomed of the LORD shall return, and come to Zion with songs and everlasting joy upon their heads: they shall obtain joy and gladness, and sorrow and sighing shall flee away.​

    How can we make certain we are inheritors of the Earth made new and partakers of eternal glory?

    How can I, a sinner, overcome sin?

    Paul under inspiration of the Holy Spirit said, “I can do all things through Christ which strengtheneth me.” (Philippians 4:13)

    The Bible points to such people who have taken God at His word, when it says:

    “Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus.” (Revelation 14:12)​

    Not merely faith in Jesus, but rather that Faith of Jesus, which enabled Him to walk and live a life without sin in the flesh we have.

    God promised that through the Lamb … Adam, Enoch, Noah, Job, Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, Joseph, Moses, Joshua, and so many others … would enter into the eternal Kingdom, if they would believe and act upon it.

    In Hebrews 11:13-14 we read:

    Heb 11:13 These all died in faith, not having received the promises, but having seen them afar off, and were persuaded of them, and embraced them, and confessed that they were strangers and pilgrims on the earth.

    Heb 11:14 For they that say such things declare plainly that they seek a country.​

    In Hebrews 11:39-40 we continue:

    Heb 11:39 And these all, having obtained a good report through faith, received not the promise:

    Heb 11:40 God having provided some better thing for us, that they without us should not be made perfect.​

    In Hebrews 11:15-16 and verse 6 we read:

    Heb 11:15 And truly, if they had been mindful of that country from whence they came out, they might have had opportunity to have returned.

    Heb 11:16 But now they desire a better country, that is, an heavenly: wherefore God is not ashamed to be called their God: for he hath prepared for them a city.

    Heb 11:6 But without faith it is impossible to please him: for he that cometh to God must believe that he is, and that he is a rewarder of them that diligently seek him.​

    An immortal crown of weight and glory await every overcomer from the hand of Jesus!

    Come to Him by faith and He will receive you, forgive you and cleanse you.

    You will be as though you had never sinned!

    In scripture we read:

    Gen 15:8 And he said, Lord GOD, whereby shall I know that I shall inherit it?

    Rom 8:32 He that spared not his own Son, but delivered him up for us all, how shall he not with him also freely give us all things?

    Heb 6:18 That by two immutable things, in which it was impossible for God to lie, we might have a strong consolation, who have fled for refuge to lay hold upon the hope set before us:

    Gal 3:29 And if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise.​

    You see, if you belong to Jesus—if you have accepted Him, then you are Abraham’s seed! An heir of that promised land. God will lift you up upon eagles wings, as it is written in Isaiah 40:31:

    Isa 40:31 But they that wait upon the LORD shall renew their strength; they shall mount up with wings as eagles; they shall run, and not be weary; and they shall walk, and not faint.​

    In Matthew 16:24-27 we read:

    Mat 16:24 Then said Jesus unto his disciples, If any man will come after me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross, and follow me.

    Mat 16:25 For whosoever will save his life shall lose it: and whosoever will lose his life for my sake shall find it.

    Mat 16:26 For what is a man profited, if he shall gain the whole world, and lose his own soul? or what shall a man give in exchange for his soul?

    Mat 16:27 For the Son of man shall come in the glory of his Father with his angels; and then he shall reward every man according to his works.​

    “And the years of eternity, as they roll, will bring richer and still more glorious revelations of God and of Christ. As knowledge is progressive, so will love, reverence, and happiness increase. The more men learn of God, the greater will be their admiration of His character. As Jesus opens before them the riches of redemption and the amazing achievements in the great controversy with Satan, the hearts of the ransomed thrill with more fervent devotion, and with more rapturous joy they sweep the harps of gold; and ten thousand times ten thousand and thousands of thousands of voices unite to swell the mighty chorus of praise.

    "And every creature which is in heaven, and on the earth, and under the earth, and such as are in the sea, and all that are in them, heard I saying, Blessing, and honor, and glory, and power, be unto Him that sitteth upon the throne, and unto the Lamb for ever and ever." Revelation 5:13.

    The great controversy is ended. Sin and sinners are no more. The entire universe is clean. One pulse of harmony and gladness beats through the vast creation. From Him who created all, flow life and light and gladness, throughout the realms of illimitable space. From the minutest atom to the greatest world, all things, animate and inanimate, in their unshadowed beauty and perfect joy, declare that God is love.”
     
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