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Moderated debates anyone?

Discussion in 'General Baptist Discussions' started by Dale-c, Jan 5, 2008.

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Would you be in favor of moderated, structured debates of hot topics on the BB?

  1. Definitely! I am interested.

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    25.0%

  2. Probably, but I am not sure.

    12 vote(s)
    37.5%

  3. I am just not sure, or other (you know the wimp option, just show me the results already!):-)

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  4. Probably not, but I might change my mind.

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    15.6%

  5. Definitely not!

    5 vote(s)
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  1. JamieinNH

    JamieinNH New Member

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    Brother Bob,

    While what you have suggested and what blackbird has suggested all sounds good and yes it would work to a point, what we are asking for is structure.

    If two people were going to debate each other in college, would it be a free for all or would there be rules, guidelines and such in place? Would the audience be allowed to join in the debate on campus?

    What you and blackbird has suggested are not against what this thread has asked for, but this thread has taken it a step further and this in turn will allow for a more productive and Christ honoring system of debate.

    It's ok if you don't want to join in but that shouldn't stop others from wanting and using a system of sturcture to learn from.

    As far as the time the Moderator would have to allow for this, it wouldn't be any more or less time they are already spending here on the BB. I am sure also that if needed there would be any number of people that would step up and volunteer to help with these debates. The moderator in this case would only have to make sure the time limits and reference limits were in place, and then the topic post would be posted.

    If given the chance, with an openmind a moderator would be able to go to the site I referred to and see how it works smoothly. I could even get a moderator from that forum to email a modertor/admin here is they need more information.

    I suppose, the only reason I am fighting for this is because all the threads that get heated shows very little of our Christian side. A lot of the time it has so much negative thoughts and posts in it that I find it hard to read and I am a Christian. Can you only imagine what a non-Christian thinks when they hit a thread like that.

    Wouldn't it be nice to be able to debate topics without all the bashing and negative posts?

    This reminds me of what the board used to be like before Andrew bought it. I wondered outloud on this board, why the BB didn't run vBulletin, it was still running on that old forum software which was hard to keep up with, hard to search in etc.. everyone thought the BB was just fine that way it was, and now ask anyone if they would rather go back to the old system? I bet the number of people would be few.

    I can understand people don't like change, but sometimes, change is good. Sometimes it causes us all to grow, which is what these debate threads would do.

    This all is of course, my opinion. I don't own this board and can't do anything but support it no matter what the format.

    Jamie
     
    #21 JamieinNH, Jan 5, 2008
  2. Brother Bob

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    Where you going to get all the moderators you will need? The Mods have a life too.

    BBob,
     
    #22 Brother Bob, Jan 5, 2008
  3. JamieinNH

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    I am sorry to be blunt, but did you see that I stated it would take no more time than they are already here. Scanning a post to make sure it's within the parameter of the debate, making sure the post was in time, if there is a time limit and then posting it takes no time.

    I understand they have a life outside of the BB, but the time needed is small. It's not like there will be 100's of debates going on. On the other forum, each user is limited to one debate at a time. He/She can't debate alcohol and KJVO at the same time.

    The time issue isn't a kill point. Also, like I said before I am sure there would be people that would step up to help with this process if needed.

    Jamie
     
    #23 JamieinNH, Jan 5, 2008
  4. JamieinNH

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    What would it hurt to set this up and give it a try. If it don't work, close it down.

    Nothing ventured... nothing gained...

    Jamie
     
    #24 JamieinNH, Jan 5, 2008
  5. tinytim

    tinytim <img src =/tim2.jpg>

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    IOWS, develop a real debating forum, with the same rules we used in High School...

    Set up an online debate.

    Only a couple mods would be needed.
     
    #25 tinytim, Jan 5, 2008
  6. tinytim

    tinytim <img src =/tim2.jpg>

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    I am curious how time limits would work online...
    Would it be something like limiting post lengths...

    Jamie, pm me the link to the other site, I am curious to how it works.
     
    #26 tinytim, Jan 5, 2008
  7. JamieinNH

    JamieinNH New Member

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    PM sent Tim

    Jamie
     
    #27 JamieinNH, Jan 5, 2008
  8. tinytim

    tinytim <img src =/tim2.jpg>

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    Just looking at the rules I like the way they set it up..
    It would certainly be more scholarly than the way we debate now..
    It would force debaters to actually articulate their positions...
    Instead of just posting URLs, and saying, "There.. that proves I'm right"

    I think we all could learn...
    Plus it would be nice to relearn how to properly debate others...

    True apologetics.

    I will look around the site more..
     
    #28 tinytim, Jan 5, 2008
  9. tinytim

    tinytim <img src =/tim2.jpg>

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    WOW!!!
    That one debate is deeply intense!!
    If we had those type here, all would be edified!
     
    #29 tinytim, Jan 5, 2008
  10. JamieinNH

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    Although they have a lot of folks there that I don't agree with, not even like their style or point of view, they certainly do know how to debate.

    Also, they firmly believe in what they are saying and it shows in their research, style of writing, and their debates.

    That is why I think it would do the BB a world of good to have something like that here. Think of the number of people that would learn something, and the debators can feel good about teaching others and expanding their knowledge.

    Jamie
     
    #30 JamieinNH, Jan 5, 2008
  11. tinytim

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    Exactly...
    I still haven't found anything in the link you sent me that would keep you from posting it here publically...
     
    #31 tinytim, Jan 5, 2008
  12. JamieinNH

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    #32 JamieinNH, Jan 5, 2008
  13. tinytim

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    Now I wish I could change my vote from probably interested to definately interested!!!

    I can see the formal debates now...
    C vs A
    Tongues vs non-tongues (or is that wive's verses husbands... lol:tonofbricks: )

    KJVO vs MV

    Drinking VS moderations

    Ron Paul VS Huckabee

    Skirts vs pants

    Shirts vs skins... oh, wait.. scratch that...

    CCM vs Hymns

    Bitsy vs .....(we'll let Bitsy fill in the blank)

    Army vs Marines

    Bowties vs straight ties

    Yankees vs southerners...

    California vs everyone else....

    SBC vs ABC

    The list could go on and on!!!
     
    #33 tinytim, Jan 5, 2008
  14. Brother Bob

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    Whatever you like and they agree to is ok with me. I was just stating how I felt about the matter, has nothing to do with how you feel.

    Bbob,
     
    #34 Brother Bob, Jan 5, 2008
  15. JamieinNH

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    Tis ok Brother.. we're all just looking to better the BB and this experience we have here.

    Take care my friend,

    Jamie
     
    #35 JamieinNH, Jan 5, 2008
  16. mcdirector

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    Bitsy has no comment about Tim's list . . .
     
    #36 mcdirector, Jan 5, 2008
  17. Dale-c

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    I have been having an email discussion about wine with a friend of mine (a pastor) he believes in the abstinence position.
    We are both good friends and I told him I wanted to be challenged.

    I told him it was like when I mount a shelf on the wall. I then put pressure to see if it holds up.
    SSometimes with our doctrine we need to test it to see if it holds up.

    A good Christ honoring discussion with someone who believes differently than you do is a great way to make sure that your doctrine holds up to pressure.

    The problem is when people don't treat you as Christians and make personal attacks it is not edifying.

    Also when you get a couple of people who are capable of a good solid debate it often gets ruined by a wisecrack that a third party breaks out.
    Often you end up with 5 discussions in the same thread.

    Instituting moderated debates would not take away what we have now, it would only enhance.

    Also I would like to see Baptist vs other denominations as well.

    Again, it is to test our belief. See if it holds up.
     
    #37 Dale-c, Jan 5, 2008
  18. tinytim

    tinytim <img src =/tim2.jpg>

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    Well of course it would hold up ... we are BAPTIST...

    Oh, that was one of those wisecrack remarks you were talking about!!!
     
    #38 tinytim, Jan 5, 2008
  19. Ed Edwards

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    Whom would we get to moderate the debates?

    I suggest NOT current moderators :)

    Say, I just saw Tiny's list.

    Were is

    PreTrib V. Post-Trib Only?

    Now that one i'd like to do.

    Here is Ed's way to get two arguers & one Referee*

    I say 'referee' cause 'moderator' is confusing with
    current roles on BB.

    Say I find someone to argue Post-Trib.
    He (or she) and I pick each a potential referee.
    These two have to find a person willing to be the
    referee AND make the 'rules' of the debate.

    I say 'rules' cause they really limit the debate.
    For example. If I debate defending the Pretrib Rapture
    in the pre-mill position with a post-tribber in the pre-mill
    postion, we could just assume we agree on the pre-mill
    position and not debate it NOR some other x-mill position
    such as a-mill (yes, it can lead to the pre-mill
    position).

    Well, anyway, I though it would be a good idea until
    i started thinking deeply about it :saint:

    against a fellow post-trib only
     
    #39 Ed Edwards, Jan 6, 2008
  20. Ed Edwards

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    Wanna fat deacon & a fat preacher to
    debate "is eatin' fatback* Christian?" :laugh:

    * term defined:
    fatback = fat meat from the upper part of a side of pork

    Or would neither one of us argue about such
    a serious matter?


    -Ed,
    :wavey: -- the Baptist Smiley
    - only one hand raised at a time
    - and the feet never leave the ground*

    * I.E. no dancin'
     
    #40 Ed Edwards, Jan 6, 2008
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