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We do by the way we live. There is the gospel according to Matthew. There is the gospel according to Mark. There is the gospel according to Luke. There is the gospel according to John and then there's the gospel according to you. </font>[/QUOTE]True. Mine was just a tongue-in-cheek comment about how people seem to be jumping to conclusions about each other. No offense intended.

 

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the KJV was a MV at one time!
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No it wasn't. Not as the mv's today are. The KJB are translated from the SAME TEXTS as the previous Bibles. The modern versions today, and why they are called such and why they are rejected by MANY are because they rely upon not only DIFFERENT texts, but DIFFERENT methods as well.


love in Jesus Christ our Lord and Saviour,
michelle

 

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Picking one version at random
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This is also false. The believer doesn't "pick" the scriptures at random. The scriptures are the scriptures, and God has not only preserved them for us, but also PROVIDED THEM for and to us. They have always been in and living in, believed by, taught, by the the churches.


love in Jesus Christ our Lord and Saviour,
michelle

 

I wonder why when they only had about a dozen manuscripts then and now we have over 5000. Isn't it amazing how according to some we have gotten it wrong when you have so many to examine? I guess more makes worse.

 

Not entirely true. The NKJV used the same text as did the KJV translators. Although within the NKJV the publishers placed within the margins the difference in the TR text used and the Alexandrian text and Majority Text used in other MVs. Because, these these are in the margin to give information is no different than the maginal notes in the KJV.

Bro Tony

 

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I wonder why when they only had about a dozen manuscripts then and now we have over 5000. Isn't it amazing how according to some we have gotten it wrong when you have so many to examine? I guess more makes worse.
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Can I then conclude from the above statement, that you believe many hundreds of generations of christian believers did not have all of the words of God, just as he promised and said he would do, and that all these christians believed ADDITIONS to God's word? Funny, since God has given clear and plain warnings and promises concerning his words.


love in Jesus Christ our Lord and Saviour,
michelle

 

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Not entirely true. The NKJV used the same text as did the KJV translators. Although within the NKJV the publishers placed within the margins the difference in the TR text used and the Alexandrian text and Majority Text used in other MVs. Because, these these are in the margin to give information is no different than the maginal notes in the KJV.

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And has been pointed out to you all, that this is not the truth. It has been shown where the NKJV has rendered passages, or verses, or words just as these modern versions do, based upon these corrupt texts and methods. Then on top of this, they give credence to these corrupt texts, and sowing doubt, and bring into question and doubt of the pure words of God in those instances. This is not an honest version, but one that is very dangerous. This is why it is considered an mv and rejected and given others warning of.


love in Jesus Christ our Lord and Saviour,
michelle

 

This is just my personal observation, but being fairly familiar with both the KJV and many MVs, I find the same Jesus in each of them. Any of the better Bible translations can teach us all we need to know about salvation and godliness, so why do we continue to argue as if the MVs are proven to be heretical? My opinion is that God can bless Christians with many different versions of His word (the evidence for this is prodigious), and we should not look down upon those who choose a version other than our favorite one. Just my opinion.

 

Again this is not true. It has not been pointed out with any objective statements of truth. It has been pointed out, as you did in your response, by your narrow-minded, unsubstantiated opinion. You are periously close to blaspheming the Word of God with your slanderous statements of ignorance. All you need to do some unbiased research to find that you are in serious error. I don't expect you to do that, I expect you to continue your unfounded tirade against the very Word of God. How sad

Bro Tony

 

Exile,

Welcome to the board. I agree with your post, but you will find that there are those who have no problem attacking the Word of God because it is not the one they have chosen by "faith". They believe they are doing a service to the Body of Christ and do not realize that they are condemning they great gift that God has given us in His Word. Don't expect much logic in most of the responses from this group for even that in their view is of Satan.

Again, welcome. Stay true to the Word.

Bro Tony

 

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This is just my personal observation, but being fairly familiar with both the KJV and many MVs, I find the same Jesus in each of them. Any of the better Bible translations can teach us all we need to know about salvation and godliness, so why do we continue to argue as if the MVs are proven to be heretical? My opinion is that God can bless Christians with many different versions of His word (the evidence for this is prodigious), and we should not look down upon those who choose a version other than our favorite one. Just my opinion.
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Is the weaker testimony better in order to witness to the lost and unsaved and for our armour, or is the stronger testimony, that God has clearly provided the churches as a witness, testimony to the lost and unsaved and for our armour? Is it better to equipp ourselves and others with the an unfamiliar sword that is rusty, dull, brittle, or with the sword that is reliable, sharp, and strong? Did God desire us to go into the battle with this unfamiliar sword? Or the reliable sword? [attack on the Word of God snipped]

love in Jesus Christ our Lord and Saviour,
michelle

[ November 11, 2004, 08:23 PM: Message edited by: Dr. Bob ]

 

Once again we have a blatant attack on the very Word of God from the ignorant. Do you even realize that the Lord is going to hold you accountable for all the slander that you have spoken against His Word? If you choose the KJV fine, if you are not comfortable with the MV's fine, just quit your ungodly attacks on God's Word.

BroTony

 

You have not proved that the MV's are weaker and the KJV stronger. You have just given your subjective opinion.

 

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Again this is not true. It has not been pointed out with any objective statements of truth. It has been pointed out, as you did in your response, by your narrow-minded, unsubstantiated opinion. You are periously close to blaspheming the Word of God with your slanderous statements of ignorance. All you need to do some unbiased research to find that you are in serious error. I don't expect you to do that, I expect you to continue your unfounded tirade against the very Word of God. How sad

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I stand and love the word of God. [attack on Word of God snipped]

[ November 11, 2004, 08:21 PM: Message edited by: Dr. Bob ]

 

You have just proved my point about the NKJV I noticed not one of your MV references came from the NKJV. They can't because they say the same thing as the KJV. You would also do well to put the chapter and verse down as a reference and the MV you used so that you assertions can be examined. After all that is the proper way to do it if you are going to back you inane statements with fact.

You have again ignored the plain truth and it is your uninformed, uneducated opinion by which you attack the very Word of God.

Bro Tony

 

The Word of God is only dangerous to those who do not believe. I am sure you would not want to be considered in that group? To we who believe it like honey on the honeycomb, it is the bread of God, it is life unto our bones. Thank the Lord for perserving His wonderful Word in modern English language for we English speaking people. And thank the Lord for perserving His wonderful Word pre 1611, post 1611 and until forever.

Bro Tony

 

Amen, Tony!!!

 

Many generations of believers had various manuscripts of scripture, no two of which are the same. That is a historical fact. Every single manuscript was different than all the others.

And they got along just fine. Of course, it helped that the message in all of them was the same--no additions or subtractions from God's revelation to us.

 

Are they attacking the Word of God, or claiming that certain versions do not contain the Word of God? If I say that the NWT or the Koran are not the Word of God, does that get snipped?