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My Biblical "One-Versionism" stance. That would be KJV.

Discussion in '2004 Archive' started by mjwegs42, Sep 10, 2004.

  1. Bro Tony

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    I am sure it was an oversight which we all have done. Now back to the discussion.

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  2. AVL1984

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    AVL,

    What were the "perfect"ly acceptable versions? [/QB]</font>[/QUOTE]As is typical with many KJVO's, you've avoided the question, or tried to answer with a question. Games again??? What a pity, but I wouldn't expect less. Very typical of someone who has no answer.

    There are a long list of perfectly acceptable versions (and YOU are taking my terminology out of context, which again is a typical KJVO tactic) before the KJV. I will not do your homework in listing the Bibles that the KJV translators used to assist in translating. You're playing games, and I've already told you in another thread that I'm not playing your games.

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  3. mjwegs42

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    AVL,

    I'm not playing games. You told me that you answered my questions. You did not answer them! Also if you try to state a fact (perfectly accapetable versions) be prepared to back it up! And I'm sorry for taking you out of context. But that does not seem to matter when we read the Bible, so why should it matter here!
     
  4. Johnv

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    Boy, talk abut taking a verse out of context. The full texts of 19-21 are as follows:

    We have also a more sure word of prophecy; whereunto ye do well that ye take heed, as unto a light that shineth in a dark place, until the day dawn, and the day star arise in your hearts: Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation. For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost.

    In context, what we're being told here is that Scripture came about not by the prophet's own interpretation, but by those prophets being moved by the Holy Spirit.

    To make the claim that this verse supports single-versionism one must twist scripture so much that the intended message is practically ignored.

    So let's try this again. Please show me scriptural support for single-translation-onlyism.
     
  5. AVL1984

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    Apparently not what it means in the KJV! ;)

    Ludicrous! :eek:

    AVL1984
    </font>[/QUOTE]AVL,

    I am sorry to see that you have not a good word to say. I think you should take a minute to pray, get your heart humble and then respond. I will take my own advice and do my best in this area also!
    </font>[/QUOTE]I do believe you need to take your own advice, mj. My heart is right, and my answers direct. As far as humble goes, may I respectfully inquire &lt;attack deleted&gt;. :rolleyes:

    AVL1984

    [ September 11, 2004, 01:37 AM: Message edited by: C4K ]
     
  6. AVL1984

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    My my my! Who said it doesn't matter when we read the Bible? I've not said it, and I don't believe anyone else here has said it either.

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  7. mjwegs42

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    AVL,

    Go to page 2. Two people chose to laugh at taking the Bible in context. Again it is you who avoid fact and questions. And as far as humble, how about James 4:10, or I Peter 5:6. Every beleiver should be humble before the LORD. Well I also beleive all intellect has left this Topic, so I will choose to also.
     
  8. mjwegs42

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    JohnV,

    Follow along here. 2 Peter 1:20 was for the argument of changing the KJV to the NKJV. so you were right, the prophets were inspired not the NKJV interpreters. Second this whole topic is about my Biblical stance. Thus the title, and the scripture I Tim 1:1-8.
     
  9. natters

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    mjwegs42 said "Two people chose to laugh at taking the Bible in context."

    No, that's not why I laughed.
     
  10. Ed Edwards

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    I'd like e-mail notification.
    Thank you.
     
  11. mjwegs42

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    Email notifications? Forgive me I'm still somewhat new. What email notifications?
     
  12. AVL1984

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    mj, I don't see two people laughing at taking the Bible in context. I see two people pointing out that you seem to take it out of context and that this point is laughable when you say we ought to keep things in context. Intellect hasn't left the topic at all. But, then again, neither has the ignorance that many KJVO's bring to the table.

    AVL1984
     
  13. Dr. Bob

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    Oh my. Another one.

    MJ - please don't try to smokescreen with references to calvinism. Does not relate to the debate. I'm as reformed as anyone on the BB and use the KJV1769 revision.

    And you need to answer questions on a debate type forum. Know you are newer to the debate, but try to follow through. When folks ask for Scripture, give it to them.

    When they ask HOW a verse supports your position, show them. This will help the discussion.
     
  14. Dr. Bob

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    As this is active and there are questions still to be answered, I think we'll leave this open a while longer.
     
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    There should be a checkbox below the posts in one of the frames that says "email notification". This will notify you when there is a response in the thread.

    AVL1984
     
  16. AVL1984

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    There should be a checkbox below the posts in one of the frames that says "email notification". This will notify you when there is a response in the thread.

    AVL1984
     
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    Thank you Dr. Bob for being so gracious in explaining. I find that I have not been so gracious to mj in explaining this. I appreciate it. And I also apologize to mj for not being a little more gracious in my posting.

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  18. mjwegs42

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    Dr Bob,

    Read carefully, I did not smokescrean. I was asked a question about the Geneva Bible and answered with my beleif! Where is the smokescrean? Where it the unanswered question? You will also need to re-read my original post. I started this whole Topic with scripture.
     
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    Much appreciated AVL, and I will or course accept your apology. But I will stand firm on my context post. I beleive most people take the KJV out of context and thus make mistakes in judging or interpreting it.
     
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    mj,

    The problem is, the scripture you posted does not support one version onlyism. There were many versions before the KJV, and many of these versions assisted the KJV translators in their translation. These versions were also the Word of God, preserved, acceptable for use, and blessed of Him. Scriptures nowhere support the notion that God would preserve His Word in one English version.

    AVL1984
     
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