My Sheep Hear My Voice

My sheep hear My voice, and I know them, and they follow Me; and I give eternal life to them, and they will never perish; and no one will snatch them out of My hand.

My Father, who has given them to Me, is greater than all ; and no one is able to snatch them out of the Father's hand. I and the Father are one."

KJB

 

By the way I have nothing good to say about myself.

But my Father in heaven is One that I would surely praise and talk about!

Jesus said;

My Father, who has given them to Me, is greater than all ; and no one is able to snatch them out of the Father's hand. I and the Father are one."

I really trust that my Father in heaven is greater than all! I hate this world...I must have been made for another world!

KJB

 

Prov 27:2 Let another man praise you and not your own mouth; a stranger and not your lips.

You make great contributions here KJB and always give God the glory! What could be better!
We are instructed to 'tarry' till He come so we will continue our work in the vinyard, planting, watering and giving God glory for bringing the increase!
Blessings!

 

Mark,

We are using our life line and calling a friend.

His name is Jesus.

Thanks,

KJB

 

Guess I'm having a hard time just figuring out what your question is Mark!
Until our hearts are regenerated by the Holy Spirit we remain in our sin, all of us! Only God knows who He has and will choose to be HIs own. At the time of regeneration we turn in response with repentance and hunger to know HIm! The sheep knew HIs voice because they belonged to HIm. They discerned the voice of their Lord and Master. They believed because they belonged. They didnt belong because they believed! When once one turns in response to the call of the Holy Spirit they then 'know in whom they have believed and that He is able to keep that which is committed unto Him until that day!' 2Tim1:12
Blessings,

 

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Thats what we said! Correct! Until a man places HIs faith(given to him by God) in Christ he is lost! But God, who is rich in mercy, because of His great love with which He loved us, even when we were dead in trespasses, made us alive together with Christ(by grace you have been saved), and raised us up together, and made us sit together in the heavenly places in Christ Jesus, that in the ages to come He might show the exceeding riches of His grace in His kindness toward us in Christ Jesus. For by grace you have been saved through faith, and that not of yourselves, it is the gift of God, not of works, lest anyone should boast. For we are His workmanship, created in Christ Jesus, for good works, which God prepared beforehand that we should walk in them. Eph2:4-10

 

Then Jesus said to them again, “Most assuredly, I say to you, I am the door of the sheep. All who ever came before Me are thieves and robbers, but the sheep did not hear them. I am the door. If anyone enters by Me, he will be saved, and will go in and out and find pasture. The thief does not come except to steal, and to kill, and to destroy. I have come that they may have life, and that they may have it more abundantly.

“I am the good shepherd. The good shepherd gives His life for the sheep. But a hireling, he who is not the shepherd, one who does not own the sheep, sees the wolf coming and leaves the sheep and flees; and the wolf catches the sheep and scatters them. The hireling flees because he is a hireling and does not care about the sheep. I am the good shepherd; and I know My sheep, and am known by My own. As the Father knows Me, even so I know the Father; and I lay down My life for the sheep. And other sheep I have which are not of this fold; them also I must bring, and they will hear My voice; and there will be one flock and one shepherd.

Jesus answered them, “I told you, and you do not believe. The works that I do in My Father’s name, they bear witness of Me. But you do not believe, because you are not of My sheep, as I said to you. My sheep hear My voice, and I know them, and they follow Me. And I give them eternal life, and they shall never perish; neither shall anyone snatch them out of My hand. My Father, who has given them to Me, is greater than all; and no one is able to snatch them out of My Father’s hand. I and My Father are one.”

The Father has given His Son a Kingdom. It will be filled with subjects. These are His sheep.

They in His due time will be called. His work in them will enable them to hear His voice when He does call.

The Father, The Son, and the Spirit, are united in effort and will.

All had gone astray. He is making it clear with this illustration that He has sheep and He will take care of them. They will hear His voice. It does not mean that in the sense of time He has called each one in yet.

But as all things are worked out according to His council....He will in due time gather all of His sheep.

Sheep may be lost. But they still belong to the Shepherd. The Rightful Owner of the sheep knows His sheep. When they hear His voice they respond.

His sheep may wander and be lost at times but the Good Shepherd finds His sheep.

There are many sheep in His fold. And He loves His sheep. He will leave 99 of His own in a safe place to go after 1 that has wandered away.

His sheep do no have free-will in the sense that they will follow after another voice. His sheep will not hear other voices.

Those that never come to believe are not His sheep.

KJB

 

Mark,

Jesus was using an illustration.

Even believers may not understand all illustrations on everything.

I will say that both will happen. As He brings in His sheep (gathers) they will hear His voice.

I did not re-word it. Here it is again with the specific text highlighted;

“I am the good shepherd. The good shepherd gives His life for the sheep. But a hireling, he who is not the shepherd, one who does not own the sheep, sees the wolf coming and leaves the sheep and flees; and the wolf catches the sheep and scatters them. The hireling flees because he is a hireling and does not care about the sheep. I am the good shepherd; and I know My sheep, and am known by My own. As the Father knows Me, even so I know the Father; and I lay down My life for the sheep. And other sheep I have which are not of this fold; them also I must bring, and they will hear My voice ; and there will be one flock and one shepherd.

I make sense out of it easily. The outward call is towards all people to repent and turn to Jesus Christ for forgiveness of their sins.

That in no way construes that people are capable of doing so.

God makes believers out of unbelievers. He causes His Word to go out and accomplish what it is intended to do.

He moves men to speak about Him and for Him. If it were possible to shut up men that God moves.....He would cause the rocks to cry out. In Him we move and have our being.

And as more of an answer to your question of God asking or commanding people to do what they are incapable of doing.....yes He does and can do that.

There is no rule book that God has to follow on such things.

He has every right to demand that men are to be perfect.....even though no man is capable of being perfect!

The ten commands come from God and are good.

Even though all people are not to lie it does not mean ALL people are not liars.

Just because God commands men it is no way proof that men are capable of keeping them or doing any of them.

Hope I have answered well.

KJB

 

John 10:16 - "And I have other sheep that are not of this fold. I must bring them also, and they will listen to my voice. So there will be one flock, one shepherd."

Mark,

You keep saying that the Bible doesn't say things that it actually does say. You really ought apologize to KJB, and you really ought to be more careful next time. When your very first sentence is so obviously wrong you lead people to wonder why they should read anything that follows.

 

Mark,

I see what you are saying but it is not possible to avoid the points of the illustration.

The points of the illustration He was giving were not about how people did or did not become believers.

It is more about;

A King with subjects. A Shepherd with His sheep.

A King with a Kingdom giving eternal life to His subjects.

And with the very important noted fact of where they came from and Who is strong enough to keep them safe.

And I give them eternal life, and they shall never perish; neither shall anyone snatch them out of My hand. My Father, who has given them to Me, is greater than all ; and no one is able to snatch them out of My Father’s hand. I and My Father are one.”

A Fathers gift to His faithful Son. A real Kingdom with real subjects.

KJB

 

This is a tremendous Calvinistic truth.

One slight technicality: they are not "invited" into the kingdom so much as they are placed into the kingdom (Col 1:13).

 

Mark,

I have to agree with Pastor Larry on this.

Yes that is a true statement.

If any man enters he will enter. All are invited. Many are called....few are chosen.

The call goes out to everybody. Come!

I bet you and I say the same thing to people!

Come! Come to Christ and live! Believe! I don't go around telling people not to believe or not to come.

But just because you and I tell everybody to come it in no way proves they have the ability to come.

God saved you by His special favor when you believed and you can't take credit for this.

His work in you was the cause of your belief.

Your belief is not the cause of Him saving you.

KJB