Featured NATIONS OUTSIDE THE NEW JERUSALEM ON THE NEW EARTH

All I Know is that ALL who were ever saved shall be part of and in the New Jerusalem, and that in the Eternal State, there are only saved in there, and the lost outside ofit!

 

On the contrary...a strictly literal "futuristic" interpretation has in the Isa 66 passage, has new moons, ceremonial sabbaths, people riding mules in the eternal state??? people bringing offerings into a literal House????
All of these passages can be explained in a postmill scheme, and on going as we speak as the gospel spreads worldwide.

 

Would you please explain where any of the verses you quoted say that the 'nations' will have 'kings' over them in the new heavens and the new earth? I couldn't seem to find that.

Where are these nations being gathered? To the New Jerusalem. Why do you think they are somehow outside?

 

These verses do not require Jesus to be consistent on earth. Hebrews 12 identifies Him speaking from Zion and Jerusalem to us on earth.
The gospel is still spreading worldwide.

 

Except that it will be gettng worse n worse, as even the elect would be killed off unless he returns!
Still have to face the Great Tribulation !

 

Didn't He state tha the new nations would represent those who werer saved, andnot in NTchurches, would bsaved and outside New Jerusalem?

 

The Biblicist,

Keep in mind.....the first Exodus...Mt Sinai the law given fresh on stone to a typically redeemed people.
The last Exodus....Mt Zion and Jerusalem...the law given fresh in the hearts and minds of an actually redeemed people.

We are in the last days according to Hebrews1;
1 God, who at sundry times and in divers manners spake in time past unto the fathers by the prophets,

2 Hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds

that the mountain of the Lord's house shall be established in the top of the mountains, and shall be exalted above the hills; and all nations shall flow unto it.

All believers worldwide offer worship to the Jerusalem above.

The heavenly Jerusalem.....you believe the local assembly is the "house" of God manifested on earth during this time period......the thing is the Head reigns from Heavenly Zion and Jerusalem

This happens when both believers and unbelievers are on the earth.

B....you also have stated the idea in other posts about rev18;
2 And he cried mightily with a strong voice, saying, Babylon the great is fallen, is fallen, and is become the habitation of devils, and the hold of every foul spirit, and a cage of every unclean and hateful bird.

3 For all nations have drunk of the wine of the wrath of her fornication, and the kings of the earth have committed fornication with her, and the merchants of the earth are waxed rich through the abundance of her delicacies.

4 And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues.

5 For her sins have reached unto heaven, and God hath remembered her iniquities.
The Ot identifies this Babylon as adulterous earthly Jerusalem.....

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4 In those days, and in that time, saith the Lord, the children of Israel shall come, they and the children of Judah together, going and weeping: they shall go, and seek the Lord their God.


5 They shall ask the way to Zion with their faces thitherward, saying, Come, and let us join ourselves to the Lord in a perpetual covenant that shall not be forgotten.


6 My people hath been lost sheep: their shepherds have caused them to go astray, they have turned them away on the mountains: they have gone from mountain to hill, they have forgotten their restingplace.


7 All that found them have devoured them: and their adversaries said, We offend not, because they have sinned against the Lord, the habitation of justice, even the Lord, the hope of their fathers.


8 Remove out of the midst of Babylon, and go forth out of the land of the Chaldeans, and be as the he goats before the flocks.

9 For, lo, I will raise and cause to come up against Babylon an assembly of great nations from the north country: and they shall set themselves in array against her; from thence she shall be taken: their arrows shall be as of a mighty expert man; none shall return in vain.

 

The view you have been taught teaches you that. The newspapers seem to support it also.....
The scriptures can offer a more hopeful picture however. I know you avoid posting scripture, but I look here rather than the newspaper;
27 All the ends of the world shall remember and turn unto the Lord: and all the kindreds of the nations shall worship before thee.


28 For the kingdom is the Lord's: and he is the governor among the nations.

29 All they that be fat upon earth shall eat and worship: all they that go down to the dust shall bow before him: and none can keep alive his own soul.

30 A seed shall serve him; it shall be accounted to the Lord for a generation.

31 They shall come, and shall declare his righteousness unto a people that shall be born, that he hath done this.

 

Lol. There is no marriage in "the eternal state," and therefore no, generations, families or nationalities. There are only Christ's brothers.

In the eternal state, all are children of the Father.

Looks like the premises with which you came to these verses is fallacious. Might want to try again.

 

That is brought about by Jesus Himself, not tru the Church!
As He needs to be here on eath before the full Kingdom comes!

 

All of the saved in New Jerusalem, are glorified, so those can only be lost , correct?

 

ALL of the saints will be inside the new Jerusalem though, correct? None outside the camp?

 

So, one nation.

Government to what purpose?

 

Thou, O king, art a king of kings: for the God of heaven hath given thee a kingdom, power, and strength, and glory. And wheresoever the children of men dwell, the beasts of the field and the fowls of the heaven hath he given into thine hand, and hath made thee ruler over them all. Thou art this head of gold. And after thee shall arise another kingdom

And in the days of these kings shall the God of heaven set up a kingdom, which shall never be destroyed: and the kingdom shall not be left to other people, but it shall break in pieces and consume all these kingdoms, and it shall stand for ever.

One of the laws of this kingdom...

And it shall come to pass, that every one that is left of all the nations which came against Jerusalem shall even go up from year to year to worship the King, the LORD of hosts, and to keep the feast of tabernacles. Zech 14:16

And it shall be, that whoso will not come up of all the families of the earth unto Jerusalem to worship the King, the LORD of hosts, even upon them shall be no rain. And if the family of Egypt go not up,


Is this before or after New Jerusalem?