Nature of Our Enemy

So you support their mission as well as "supporting the troops". Good for you.

It's almost impossible to get a lot of liberals to say what you did. </font>[/QUOTE]Now you can no longer spout off sweeping generalizations eh? And I agree with him. </font>[/QUOTE]Why didn't you just say so?

 

I think I just "said so" right here.

 

Fact: Wars never go as planned.
Fact: Many generals and politicians have planned perfect wars.
Fact: Something always went wrong and they had to change thier plans.

 

Only a police state can defeat a country from Islam.

 

"Protect", not "defeat." My typing is getting sloppier.

 

I hope you're wrong.

If you're not, we're done.

 

carpro & billwald, sadly, I believe ya'll are correct.

 

"We certainly do have the freedom to speak our minds in this country and that's a good thing."

For how much longer? LINK

"Our Constitution essentially documents that freedom as one of several designed to protect citizens from excess power of government."

For how much longer? LINK

Congressman Ron Paul’s office has notified infowars.com that the Patriot Act reauthorization is set to pass the House on Thursday or Friday. As things stand now, there may be even less votes against the legislation this time than for the vote on October 27, 2001.

Paul’s office said that they’re throwing everything at them at once: CAFTA, the Supreme Court nomination, and making the Patriot Act permanent.

Every American needs to contact Congress and tell them to control our borders, not butcher the Bill of Rights. Remember, Congress wasn’t even allowed to read the Patriot Act in 2001. This time, they know what they’re doing. They just hope we don’t.


"I'm relatively sure we agree on that!"

Sure who wouldn't agree with that, the excessively powerful government and it's global masters maybe?

By Phyllis Schlafly
7-17-5

The Council on Foreign Relations (CFR) has just let the cat out of the bag about what's really behind our trade agreements and security partnerships with the other North American countries. A 59-page CFR document spells out a five-year plan for the "establishment by 2010 of a North American economic and security community" with a common "outer security perimeter."

"Community" means integrating the United States with the corruption, socialism, poverty and population of Mexico and Canada. "Common perimeter" means wide-open U.S. borders between the U.S., Mexico and Canada.

"Community" is sometimes called "space" but the CFR goal is clear: "a common economic space ... for all people in the region, a space in which trade, capital, and people flow freely." The CFR's "integrated" strategy calls for "a more open border for the movement of goods and people."

The CFR document lays "the groundwork for the freer flow of people within North America." The "common security perimeter" will require us to "harmonize visa and asylum regulations" with Mexico and Canada, "harmonize entry screening," and "fully share data about the exit and entry of foreign nationals."

This CFR document, called "Building a North American Community," asserts that George W. Bush, Mexican President Vicente Fox, and Canadian Prime Minister Paul Martin "committed their governments" to this goal when they met at Bush's ranch and at Waco, Texas on March 23, 2005. The three adopted the "Security and Prosperity Partnership of North America" and assigned "working groups" to fill in the details.

It was at this same meeting, grandly called the North American summit, that President Bush pinned the epithet "vigilantes" on the volunteers guarding our border in Arizona.

A follow-up meeting was held in Ottawa on June 27, where the U.S. representative, Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff, told a news conference that "we want to facilitate the flow of traffic across our borders." The White House issued a statement that the Ottawa report "represents an important first step in achieving the goals of the Security and Prosperity Partnership."

The CFR document calls for creating a "North American preference" so that employers can recruit low-paid workers from anywhere in North America. No longer will illegal aliens have to be smuggled across the border; employers can openly recruit foreigners willing to work for a fraction of U.S. wages.

Just to make sure that bringing cheap labor from Mexico is an essential part of the plan, the CFR document calls for "a seamless North American market" and for "the extension of full labor mobility to Mexico."

The document's frequent references to "security" are just a cover for the real objectives. The document's "security cooperation" includes the registration of ballistics and explosives, while Canada specifically refused to cooperate with our Strategic Defense Initiative (SDI).

To no one's surprise, the CFR plan calls for massive U.S. foreign aid to the other countries. The burden on the U.S. taxpayers will include so-called "multilateral development" from the World Bank and the Inter-American Development Bank, "long-term loans in pesos," and a North American Investment Fund to send U.S. private capital to Mexico.

The experience of the European Union and the World Trade Organization makes it clear that a common market requires a court system, so the CFR document calls for "a permanent tribunal for North American dispute resolution." Get ready for decisions from non-American judges who make up their rules ad hoc and probably hate the United States anyway.

The CFR document calls for allowing Mexican trucks "unlimited access" to the United States, including the hauling of local loads between U.S. cities. The CFR document calls for adopting a "tested once" principle for pharmaceuticals, by which a product tested in Mexico will automatically be considered to have met U.S. standards.

The CFR document demands that we implement "the Social Security Totalization Agreement negotiated between the United States and Mexico." That's code language for putting illegal aliens into the U.S. Social Security system, which is bound to bankrupt the system.

Here's another handout included in the plan. U.S. taxpayers are supposed to create a major fund to finance 60,000 Mexican students to study in U.S. colleges.

To ensure that the U.S. government carries out this plan so that it is "achievable" within five years, the CFR calls for supervision by a North American Advisory Council of "eminent persons from outside government . . . along the lines of the Bilderberg" conferences.

The best known Americans who participated in the CFR Task Force that wrote this document are former Massachusetts Governor William Weld and Bill Clinton's immigration chief Doris Meissner. Another participant, American University Professor Robert Pastor, presented the CFR plan at a friendly hearing of Senator Richard Lugar's Foreign Relations Committee on June 9.

Ask your Senators and Representatives which side they are on: the CFR's integrated North American Community or U.S. sovereignty guarded by our own borders.

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So what is the "cause"? To bring democracy to the world and make America safer or put our constitutional republic in checkmate? There is only a couple moves left on the chessboard. Your playing by the rules, the rulers aren't. Is that the kind of America you want to hand to your children? A North-American community controlled by special interests and socialist global elites and a massive police state controlled by the executive that is controlled by the same elites?

While your focused on winning the war in Iraq your not seeing that we are losing our republic to neo cheaters of the socialist [communist?] elite, and that my friend is very sad indeed.

 

Question on the Patriot Act. I watch C-SPAN alot but did'nt see much talk or debate on the act. I thought it was going to get a tune-up so our rights would not be trampled on.Does anybody KNOW ANY FACTS regarding the bill.

 

The House okayed a couple of modifications (&lt;--link--clicky!)

That's all that's going on as far as I know.

 

I'd say you're fighting the wrong battle.

Eph 6:11 Put on the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil.
Eph 6:12 For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high [places].

 

I hope you got alot of resolve then considering this war started in 1805 with the betrayal of the one we were backing at the time.

 

I can't figure out what you are refering to.

 

"Are you claiming that the United States of America started the war we're fighting today in Iraq against terrorism in 1805 which was 290 years ago? I don't believe that for a second!"

Of course you don't believe it, you seem to be under the impression that history shows that every adventure the US has undertaken was for the good of the people and a righteous cause. I think if you had an open mind you'd see that most of the time these causes just served to enrich the rich and powerful and the rich and powerful sold it to the people as a righteous cause.

Like intentionally giving blankets infected with the smallpox virus to the Indians was good for the people. Loving Christian charity, right? No, those "savages" (subhuman creatures) had something we wanted...land! The sooner we ran them off, killed their families and crammed them onto reservations to control them the better.

Tripoli set a precedent 200 and some odd years ago. Funding, arming and making promises to an ally then breaking those promises and making enemies through political backstabbing. But your going to take your faith in the flag and try to cover all the evidence of wrong doing, naturally.

"Perhaps it's the same kind of misread "little bits" of history such as claiming that Ho Chi Minh was a good guy who became a Communist just because President Truman didn't respond to his letter."

Actually no not just this one incident, communism is the anti-thesis to the American idea of government, all power is inherent in the people. The synthesis will be a one world government run by unelectd elites. With (North) America as a controlled regional state along with with Canada, Mexico and Latin America. That's the real cause, to build the NWO. The real enemies of freedom are the elite that have been planning and carrying this out for a very long time. (Behind the scenes)

 

poncho, the smallpox story is a lie that was made up by that evil professor in Colorado, Ward Churchill.

 

Dragoon68,amen to that.