New IFB Church Movement

A note of clarification: Acts 1:8 is probably not a outline for our own missions programs. It is an outline of the initial spread of the gospel, and really serves as an outline for the book of Acts, that records its history.

 

I agree with the principle of what you are saying. My point was that Acts 1:8 is not the place to argue it from. Christ was there telling how the gospel would spread.

I think it wise to make sure our own efforts and evangelism is taking place. But we must maintain a worldwide vision at the same time. I do not see this as an either/or but rather as a both/and.

We must maintain our mission at home while also furthering the missions of the world.

 

Let me chime in again and say that I wish more SBC's would indeed look in their own backyard instead of the other side of the planet. However, many of them do just that, and I think that goes unnoticed sometimes when they do. As in any denomination, every church is different. The whole BGCT versus SBTC issue has been unfortunate, and quite frankly, is the BGCT's fault in the first place.

 

I was a member of an SBC church for many years.
I have recently (in the past 2 yrs) joined an independent baptist church in northern Illinois. Some of the points that have been discussed here in this thread are prominent in my church while some are not. My pastor could not be more caring and loving in speech and manner. He is THE best preacher I have ever been associated with. His use of KJV could not be clearer for me who is used to using NASB. Our support of missionaires could be better but I guess I still have a strong affection for the Cooperative Program.

2 yrs ago our church was purely southern gospel music but as members move (our music leader moved to Missouri), so music patterns change.

God is working in our midst and that is what is important. Souls are being saved and lives are being spiritually transformed.

IFB, Independent Baptist, SBC, or whatever. God is still on throne. Praise be to God.

 

Congratulations, John William. You sound like you have found a wonderful congregation that is making a difference in people's lives. I pray that my church will do the same. I personally do not support the CBF, if that is to what you are referring, but am all about other cooperative Baptist efforts. God is good.

 

Let me tell you about the type of Baptist that I am and that I will die as.
First of all. I am a born again, Independent (self governing) fundamental (we hold to the fundamentals of the faith, God's Preserved Word, God's standards, separated, (hate sin and call it by it's rightful name) I am a King James Bible AV1611 ONLY (God's Word and not mans' perversion amen!) Uncompromising, We don't compromise God's Word, his music, his standards, we believe and OBEY His Word: therefore NO: and yea our ladies don't wear pants but they are exactly that, they are ladies and they are clean and our boys look like boys, they aren't a bunch of long haired, thumbsucking, pansy acting, pro liberal, pro anything goes compromisers. This worship "feel goodism" we have today is a bunch of garbage, Real Biblical preaching convicts, go ahead and hate me (join the rest of the rebels but i'll tell you what, the baptist or any other type of church can change all the time to make everyone happy...but a Biblical planted hell raising Baptist church will always be the same.

WE NEED AN OLD FASHIONED KING JAMES BIBLE
WE NEED AN OLD FASHIONED PREACHER WHO PREACHES THE KINGDOM OF GOD!
WE NEED AN OLD FASHIONED REVIVAL!
WE NEED AN OLD FASHIONED HYMNAL BOOK!
WE NEED AN OLD FASHIONED DRESS STANDARDS
WE NEED OLD FASHIONED PREACHING AND TO CALL SIN BY IT'S NAME


The backslider likes the preaching that wouldn't hit the side of a house, while the real disciple is delighted when the truth brings him to his knees. (Billy Sunday)

sincerely,

A Born again, Independent, Fundamental, KJB AV1611 loving, uncompromising, sold out to God, separated, blood bought, sin hating, sinner loving, mission minded, hell raising, Baptist

 

I do agree with you on this point, providing that the pastor is going to do full time ministry work. Health insurance and a livable salary should be among the first "missions projects" for the church.

 

Perhaps you consider the biblical admonitions and add "grace" and "tact" to your list ...

 

The backslider likes the preaching that wouldn't hit the side of a house, while the real disciple is delighted when the truth brings him to his knees. (Billy Sunday)

sincerely,

A Born again, Independent, Fundamental, KJB AV1611 loving, uncompromising, sold out to God, separated, blood bought, sin hating, sinner loving, mission minded, hell raising, Baptist [/qb][/QUOTE


Surrender, I am very happy that you attend a sound church, there are so few today.


[ March 31, 2003, 10:04 PM: Message edited by: swordsman ]

 

Earlier on this thread it was mentioned about protestant churches... Didn't all the protestant churches come OUT of the Catholic Church such as the Methodist.
The Baptist were never part of the Catholic.

 

Amen and Amen brother!

 

Let me tell you what kind of Baptist I am... [expletives deleted]

I can tell this is going to be fun

My church is a Word centered ministry

As as result, no silly focus on Dress standards (althought we don't seem to have a problem with dress)

No uneccessary death grip on a particular English translation

No "feel-goodism" (The preaching is very hard, focused on and understanding of Doctrine, very convicting, altar calls, and also personal accountability)

Holy Spirit activity (God is working in the hearts of members, and the Church is also growing fast,something like 88 members added last year, with more than half of those by Baptism)

The list goes on, lets just say, it looks nothing like either extreme listed in the above posts, it is a balanced, purpose driven, Word centered, living ang growing ministry, where the credit goes to God, nowhere else. More than I can say for many traditional IFB churches I have been in, even if they used the KJV and had a dress code. For some reason, that isn't what brings real change to people, you have to change what they are trusting in, and their heart attitudes, the rest of the Christian walk follows pretty close.

 

I am curious ... you say we need an old fashioned hymnal book. Do you realize that hymn books are not old fashioned? They are modern inventions.

 

HomeBound, swordsman....i appreciate the feedback! It's sad to see Biblically sound Fundamental churches become fewer and fewer........

"The Lord is on my side; I will not fear: what can man do unto me?

 

Superdave, Sounds like you go to a pretty good church