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News Death Penalty Found Constitutional

Discussion in '2000-02 Archive' started by LadyEagle, Dec 11, 2002.

  1. LadyEagle

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    http://ap.tbo.com/ap/breaking/MGAN3GI0K9D.html

    [ January 07, 2003, 11:59 AM: Message edited by: The Squire ]
     
  2. Johnv

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    This was not unexpected. The death penalty challenges at the state level have been continually upheld, so there's no reason to thin kit wouldn't have als been done so at the federal level.
     
  3. Rick Sr.

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    I agree with this reversal. If the criminals had to pay for their crimes, maybe this would be a deterrant against violent crimes.
    Rick
     
  4. Justified

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    All who murder, rape, incest, armed robbery, molest, etc...

    "DEATH PENALTY!" :D
     
  5. Johnv

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    Okay, that's a bit extreme. The death penalty for Murder 1 is one thing, but for the rest is a bit extreme, and certainly not within the legal boundaries of the punishment fitting the crime.
     
  6. Joseph_Botwinick

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    Except for armed robbery, I agree with Justified. It sure would take care of our overcrowding situation in the prisons and I wouldn't have to pay for a murderer to live the rest of his life, possibly mocking the victim's family (as has been the case with Charles Manson) in prison.

    Joseph Botwinick
     
  7. Justified

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    God"s Word is our only Authority for such matters! [​IMG]
     
  8. Justified

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    Joseph,

    The reason I added, "armed robbery", what were they going to do with that weapon, if they didnot get what they want? :confused: :eek:

    Merry Christmas to all! [​IMG]
     
  9. tyndale1946

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    Old Testament or New Testament... And is there a difference?... Just throwing this up for debate!... Brother Glen Of The Primitive Baptist Brethren [​IMG]
     
  10. Johnv

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    overcrowding and the cost of incarceration are by no means a justifiable reason to utilize the death penalty.
     
  11. Joseph_Botwinick

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    I disagree with you as I see being forced to pay for the room, board, and medication of a murderer unjustifiable and a waste of money.

    Joseph Botwinick
     
  12. Johnv

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    You can't convict someone for something they haven't done yet. If you don't believe me, rent "Minority Report".
     
  13. Johnv

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    So it's about money.
     
  14. Joseph_Botwinick

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    JohnV.,

    Yes, partially it is about money. I don't think it is moral to force people to pay for room, board, and medical for a murderer.
     
  15. Johnv

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    Then you'd be happy to know that in Los Angeles County, the total cost of capital punishment is $2,087,926, while the total cost of life imprisonment without possibility of parole is $1,448,935.

    That cost difference is consistent across the country.
     
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    We could make that cost a lot less. How much would a rope, a tree branch, and a chair cost. We could even recycle the noose. It would even be environmentally friendly... :D

    Joseph Botwinick
     
  18. tyndale1946

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    "Hang Em High"... Brother Glen Of The Primitive Baptist Brethren [​IMG]
     
  19. Paul of Eugene

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    I've never had much problem with capitol punishment. Salvation issues? The threat of imminant death, I believe, would tend to make a person get serious about the next life to come, and counterbalence the advantage of having a long life to maybe someday get saved. People condemned that are innocent? Many people are motivated to carefully check the prisoners on death row that are condemned to die who would leave innocent lifers languishing their whole life in prison.

    On the other hand, I think increasing the odds criminals will get caught and judged will do more to reduce crime than increasing threats if we do manage to catch them.

    As for the biblical history on this subject, I do not see us ever going to capitol punishment to the same degree as specified in Israel's old testament law, which reflected conditions where they did not even have very much imprisonment as punishment. It was all fines, restitution, and capital punishment.
     
  20. Justified

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    Johnv,

    When some one uses a deadly weapon while commiting a crime, should be substancial to prove intent.

    Also, the numbers that you provided, shows how illogical our system really is!

    Besides, God said they do not deserve to live!

    And that should be good enough for us as Christians! [​IMG]

    Merry Christmas! [​IMG]
     
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