No dead babies, little children, infants in Hell?

I greatly admire Dr. Mohler and I hope that this is true although I don't think I can say that is true without any doubt. Being the father of three miscarried babies though, my greatest comfort isn't in the thought of my children being in heaven.

 

Been thinking about something like this.

 

I am unfamiliar with Al Mohler, but I do not understand why he is trying to sell double condemnation. I don't find Christ teaching it. Sounds like he may be inventing ways to hold on to what he has been taught.

Christ said we must be converted as little children. I do not find it to mean dead children, I believe the Bible shows us that the children He was speaking of where very much alive.

I feel there needs to be more options on the poll.
God bless and many blessings!!!

 

I agree with Outsider in that there are not enough choices.

We do not know the age of David's son who died as a result of his sin, but David apparently knew without a shadow of doubt that his son was in heaven with the Father.

As to all infants who die being elect, the Word of God nowhere implies such a claim.

Not all saved in the Word of God are said to be elect. John wrote 'To the elect lady and her children,' but when he wrote to Gaius, he did not call him elect but 'in the truth.'

Saying all the saved are elect is wrong for not all who are saved in the Word of God were said to be elect.

 

I voted that all the infants are elect. One option was enough for me. :laugh:

I also like Spurgeon's sermon on the subject. http://www.spurgeon.org/sermons/0411.htm

 

Not sure what you mean hear brother. In trying to understand how do you handle this verse.

4According as he hath chosen us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before him in love:

Choosen = election.

Is not this saying no matter what your feeling is on election, that all believers are the elect?


Thanks

 

I see it the same way.

Hey good brother,
Not really. He elected for those that believe to be holy and without blame before him in love.
Not saying that He didn't elect some, because I find He did. But some (Non-elect) choose to believe.

This is the way I view it in scripture. Many blessings!!

 

I don't see the word 'elected' in the definition of chosen in Ephesians 1:4.

eklegomai simply means chosen... not elected.

 

So you see this election as not toward the people, but to the plan.

Does the word "us" not overrule that idea?

 

And what does chosen mean?

On election day as we vote for President will we make a choice?

 

The next thing you'll come up with is that Christians are not believers. C'mon SFiC, chosen=elected.

 

No. He is refering to "us" as believers. He did not know them all individually, but if they believed in Christ, they would recieve his letter and he was their brother and included them in the "us".

God bless and many blessings.

 

Then all believers are elect...right?

 

If all believers are not the elect will God not "gather" some believers together but rather leave the believers that are not the elect behind?

 

Mark 13:27:"And he will send out his angels to gather his chosen ones from all over the world -- from the farthest ends of the earth and heaven. (NLTse)

 

First off, there needs to be an "other" option, because I can't vote for any of the answers as worded.

Second, the above is another dispensation of salvation. Sinners are saved by grace through faith...not because they are deemed "elect". You have faith unnecessary for this nebulous group of individuals defined as "the elect". That is another gospel.

Infants are not sinners, hence they are not spiritually dead (separated) from God. They are "not guilty". Non guilty people are not condemned. It's actually pretty simple.

 

Well, the OP has the "elect" as neither believers or Christians!