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No Longer 'Merry Christmas' at Best Buy

Discussion in 'Political Debate & Discussion' started by standingfirminChrist, Nov 16, 2006.

  1. standingfirminChrist

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    Last week I received an email from my pastor's wife that was forwarded to her about Best Buy and this years policy concerning the upcoming Holidays. In it, Best Buy stated they would not be greeting customers with 'Merry Christmas', but rather 'Happy Holidays' so as not to offend anyone because of the many hodidays this time of year.

    I wrote the Best Buy office an email and this afternoon I received this reply (emphasis mine):


    Well, as a Christian, I am offended. America was founded on Christian values and is called a Christian nation. And yet they want to remove Christ out of Christmas. Now I know this was not the time of year Christ was born, but it is the time Christians celebrate that wonderful event when God's Son came to dwell among us and to save His people from their sin.

    We indeed are living in the last days when people do not want to retain God in their knowledge. They will readily use His name in vain, calling it out as a curseword, but will not acknowledge Him as God. His Son is mocked by many who have allowed commercialism and greed to become their gods.

    I will no longer reccommend Best Buy to anyone. If they are afraid of offending man, they should be even more fearful of their offense to a living God.
     
  2. Salty

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    When a clerk says "Happy Holidays" or any similiar greeting, I ask them which holiday they are refering to. They will usually say "any one you like" I then ask them which holiday they are celebrating.

    Salty
     
  3. DeeJay

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    I do not have a problem with "Happy Hollidays". Maybe because I dont expect the unsaved world to celibrate a God they do not worship. And because I do realize that there are other hollidays going on.

    And on the same note people are to sensitive, they get their feeling hurt to easily. It should not offend a jewish person to be greeted merry Christmas. And I would not be offended to walk into a store owned by a jewish person and be greeted "happy Chaunika (sp?)" I would respond "Thank you and Merry Christmas"

    When I am greeted "Happy Hollidays" I just respond "Thanks and merry Christmas"

    Are you offended that there are churches in your town that are not Christian? We have to realize that everybody is entitled to decide for themself what and who they believe and we have to accept and respect others choices. Even if we disagree. And even if that choice is generic like happy hollidays.
     
  4. El_Guero

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    Great post!

    Thanks for letting me know that I should not shop Best Buy!

    Wayne


     
  5. DeeJay

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    Well, Wall Mart is keeping the "Merry Christmas" in their advertising.


    http://money.cnn.com/2006/11/09/news/companies/walmart_christmas/index.htm?postversion=2006110909

    Oh but they let gays shop there. Whats a guy to do. :BangHead:
     
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  6. Daisy

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    Happy Holidays includes Christmas but you're offended because you want your holiday to be the only one acknowledged? That seems awfully selfish and not truly in the Christmas spirit.
     
  7. JFox1

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    It's another example of political correctness spiraling out of control! :(
     
  8. Blammo

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    No Target, no Wal-Mart, no Best-Buy, no Coka Cola, no Pepsi, no Albertsons, no Safeway, no... ANYTHING!!! Don't you get it?!?

    Whether these people are christian or not does not matter, they must pretend to be christian or they ain't getting a dime out of me!!! I want everyone to pretend to be christian, otherwise I will only shop at the christian shopping centers.

    I wish everyone believed the Bible, and loved the Lord Jesus Christ. That would be wonderful. But if you were to look closely at every business in this country, you would find some reason to boycott them. (Whether you are a christian or not.) Don't get me wrong, if a store seems me to be clearly anti-christian, they won't get a dime from me. But, unless I don't want to have anywhere to shop, I think I will pick my battles.
     
  9. Rufus_1611

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    Wouldn't "Happy Holidays" be offensive to atheists since "Holiday" comes from "Holy Day"?:rolleyes:
     
  10. mcdirector

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    I just do what DeeJay does and go around saying Merry Christmas. I may be a bit more prolific with it. I say it to everyone instead of hello and goodbye -- call me a fanatic.
     
  11. JamieinNH

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    Now that Blammo was well said!

    I can understand the frustration people have when a store don't say Merry Christmas, but we get this EVERY year and it's crazy. :BangHead:

    We should be more worried about the clerk at the checkout and whether they are saved or not, vers what the store tells them to say. geeze...

    As much as you would like it to be, this is not a Christian country. This is a melting pot of many many different people and religions.

    It's not out job to make sure everyone is political correct in what they say, it's our job to go out and spread the good news and lead them to Christ. :jesus:

    I guarantee you, that if you help convert someone to Christ, they will automatically say Merry Christmas. You see, we win, if we do what we're suppose to.


    Jamie :1_grouphug:
     
  12. Martin

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    ==From the perspective of New Testament theology there is no such thing as a Christian nation. For a Christian is a Christ follower which is something an individual person must do. Even if there was such a thing the current moral climate of the United States proves the United States is not a Christian nation. The majority of people are not only not Christians, the majority are following the desires of the flesh in one form or the other (Gal 5:19-21). Yes America was founded on Christian principles, and yes it has been called a Christian nation. However as a student of theology, as well as history, I must ask the question: Is there really such thing as a Christian nation? The theological conclusion I reach, from the New Testament, is no.

    Now, to the OP. Personally, and this is just me, I don't want to be greeted when I walk in a store. The only time I want to see a store employee is when I am ready to check out. Then I want them to move as fast as they can and get me out of the store. I know what I am there for, I will get it and then I want out. So does it bother me that Best Buy is not going to say "Merry Christmas"? Not really.

    O, and where did Jesus or Paul command us to boycott stores that don't say "Merry Christmas"? I don't think there is such a Scripture. If you wish to say Merry Christmas, as I do, then say it. Nobody at Best Buy, or any other place for that matter, can stop us. If someone does not wish to say Merry Christmas I don't desire to force them to say it. What good is empty legalism anyway? Christian faith, and charity, cannot be forced upon anyone.


    ==The majority of lost people of this world long ago took Christ out of Christmas. For them Christmas is about parties, Santa Clause, and gifts. Nothing more. This is reflected in the stores. Think about the displays.

    I doubt God is going to judge anyone for shopping at Best Buy. God, unlike many Christians today, does not expect lost people to act like saved people (see Eph 2:1-5). I think the reason we often do is that we have watered down what it means to be lost. And in this country of comfort I suppose that is an easy thing to do. Why do we expect lost people to honor a God, a Savior, whom they have rejected?

    There is also the fact that Christians have not always celebrated Christmas. In fact some early Puritans refused to celebrate Christmas. I have an interesting article on this I found in Christian History magazine...

    "Christmas, like the rest of the saints' days and festivals in the Catholic/Anglican calendar, was in their view not only unnecessary and unBiblical, it also diminished the specialness of the one day of every week Scripture did set apart for Christians to celebrate God's work in Christ: the Sabbath. As Richard Greenham explained, 'Our Easter, our Ascension day, our Whitsuntide is every Lord's Day'" -Christian History & Biography, Issue 89, Winter 2006, pg3.

    Having said all of this we don't have a Best Buy in my town so the point is mute for me. :laugh:
    However if I am in a city that has a Best Buy, and there is something in that store I need to purchase, I will shop at the Best Buy.

    In short I see no Biblical basis for this boycott.
     
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    Martin, great post here. I agree completely. I have never understood why believers spend so much time and energy trying to make nonbelievers live by our standards. We should be telling them about Christ instead of worrying about their greeting.

    The hypocrisy in all of this is that many who get all upset about these kind of greetings would not walk across the street to tell their lost neighbor about Christ.
     
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    I always thought there was something rotten about Best Buy.I have been boycotting them for just over 61 years and will continue to do so.:tonofbricks:
     
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    I'm still going to say Merry Christmas to everyone regardless of what they say to me :tongue3:
     
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    :thumbs: FANATIC!!
     
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    I also ask, which holiday?

    Most of the time I've heard, well, Christmas.

    To which my response is... well Merry Christmas to you then.

    I've even had some of them whisper Merry Christmas back! Cut these sales people some slack. They have to make a living too, and your boycott of Best Buy or Walmart or whoever does nothing to affect the giants of the business and everything to affect the little man... your neighbor.
     
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    :applause: :applause: :thumbs:
     
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    I applaud that you contacted them, SFIC. I may do the same. If nobody takes a stand for anything anymore then no wonder the world is in the shape it's in. There are only a few of us dinosaurs left, SFIC. Merry Christmas.
     
  20. hillclimber1

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    I'll call you fantastic, and since I do the same thing I'm fantastic.:thumbsup:

    well not to everyone, but all the store clerks or anyone else that says HHollidays etc,
     
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