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Non creationist astronomy failed

Discussion in 'General Baptist Discussions' started by kendemyer, Dec 17, 2006.

  1. kendemyer

    kendemyer New Member

    Dec 16, 2003
    Non creationist failed!

    I cite the following:

    Non Young Universe Astronomy Overall

    “We cannot even show convincingly how galaxies, stars, planets, and life arose in the present universe.” Michael Rowan-Robinson, “Review of the Accidental Universe,” New Scientist, Vol. 97, 20 January 1983, p. 186.

    Solar System

    "All the hypotheses [regarding solar system formation] so far presented have failed or remain unproven when physical theory is properly applied." — Fred Whipple, Orbiting the Sun (1981), p. 284.
    "I think all suggested accounts of the origin of the Solar System are subject to serious objections. The conclusion in the present state of the subject would be that the system cannot exist." - Sir Harold Jeffreys, the Earth: Its Origin, History, and Physical Constitution (1970), p. 359.

    Galaxy Formation

    “The problem of explaining the existence of galaxies has proved to be one of the thorniest in cosmology. By all rights, they just shouldn’t be there, yet there they sit. It’s hard to convey the depth of frustration that this simple fact induces among scientists.” James Trefil, The Dark Side of the Universe. A Scientist Explores the Mysteries of the Cosmos, New York Charles Scibner's Sons: 1988, page 55.


    "The leading theory for giant planet formation has encountered a mortal blow, and the reaction is to put the theory on life support by invoking a physical phenomenon, core erosion, that had never before been raised." Alan Boss (evolutionary planetary theorist of the Carnegie Institution in Washington D.C.), New Scientist, 24 July 2004, p. 9.

    “... most every prediction by theorists about [[planetary formation]] has been wrong.” Scott Tremaine, as quoted by Richard A. Kerr who was proposing a new planetary formation model, “Jupiters Like Our Own Await Planet Hunters,” Science, Vol. 295, 25 January 2002, p. 605.

    “It turns out to be surprisingly difficult for planetesimals to accrete mass during even the most gentle collisions.” Erik Asphaug, “The Small Planets,” Scientific American, Vol. 282, May 2000, p. 54.

    "No one knows quite how planetesimals ever attain protoplanet status." (D. Kaisler, The puzzles of planethood, Sky & Telescope 104(2):32-38, 2002. [http://www.astronomyorigins.com/pages/8/]

    “Building Jupiter has long been a problem to theorists.” George W. Wetherill, “How Special Is Jupiter?” Nature, Vol. 373, 9 February 1995, p. 470.


    “We don’t understand how a single star forms, yet we want to understand how 10 billion stars form.” Carlos Frenk, as quoted by Robert Irion, “Surveys Scour the Cosmic Deep,” Science, Vol. 303, 19 March 2004, p. 1750.

    ‘The truth is that we don't understand star formation at a fundamental level.’ - Abraham Loeb of Harvard’s Center for Astrophysics quoted by Marcus Chown, ‘Let there be light’, New Scientist 157(2120):26-30, 7 February 1998 [http://www.answersingenesis.org/creation/v20/i3/big_bang.asp#star]

    “The universe we see when we look out to its furthest horizons contains a hundred billion galaxies. Each of these galaxies contains another hundred billion stars... The silent embarrassment of modern astrophysics is that we do not know how even a single one of these stars managed to form.” Martin Harwit, Book Reviews, Science, Vol. 231, 7 March 1986, pp. 1201–1202.

    “In fact, given our current understanding of how stars form and the properties of the galactic center, it’s [stellar evolution near the galactic center is] not allowed to happen.” Andrea M. Gaze, as quoted by Ron Cowen, “Mystery in the Middle,” Science News, Vol. 163, 21 June 2003, p. 394.

    “For example, no one can explain how the stars—which are 15 times heftier than our sun—got there [near the center of our galaxy]. According to most astronomical models, they are too big to have formed in the chaos of the galactic center but appear to be too young to have moved there from farther out.” Robert Irion, “The Milky Way’s Dark, Starving Pit,” (Science, Vol. 300, 30 May 2003, p. 1356 ).

    Nobody really understands how star formation proceeds. It’s really remarkable.” Rogier A. Windhorst, as quoted by Corey S. Powell, “A Matter of Timing,” Scientific American, Vol. 267, October 1992, p. 30.

    For additional details please see:

    Astronomy and Astrophysics Questions and Answers

    Center for Scientific Creation, Astronomy