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Not to Vaccinate is a Sin

Discussion in 'Political Debate & Discussion' started by Crabtownboy, Oct 17, 2009.

  1. Crabtownboy

    Crabtownboy Well-Known Member

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    I have never thought of this idea before.

     
  2. Bro. Curtis

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    This should be in the debate forum. Besides that, it is about the stupidest thing I have ever heard.
     
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    Not surprising.
     
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    Just what we need, the government telling us what sin is. :BangHead:
     
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    Well, is this any worse than them telling us what it AIN'T????

    Besides, where's all that separation stuff when you need it??
     
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    I do not raise my children for the benefit of society. I raise my children for the benefit of the Lord Jesus Christ. If they also have a benefit for society, that's a side bonus.

    What if I vaccinate my child and they have an adverse reaction to it - or it causes irreversible damage in them and then they become a burden on society. Is that better?

    I choose to not vaccinate my children against the flu and the swine flu. None of us in my family will receive the swine flu vaccine until I'm sure of it's safety and efficacy. Three of the six of us will receive the seasonal flu vaccine but not the others. That has been our choice in the past and it will continue.
     
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    None of my children have received vaccinations of any kind. You see, everything in life involves risk. There are risks to vaccinating and risks to not vaccinating. And in life, we must make choices that make us most comfortable with which risk we are choosing. We made our choice and others made theirs.

    I definitely don't like the idea that the government can force certain medical procedures on the whole population. I'm more afraid of that than of flu vaccines!
     
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    Am I my brother's keeper?

     
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    Should we be willing to help our brother - yes!

    Should we force him to accept our help - NO!
    And likewise we should not be forced to accept something we so choose not to.

    Salty
     
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    And NEWSWEEK, the world-renowned Christian periodical. And I'm certainly not going to take advice on Christianity from someone who says women pastors are fine, abortion isn't a sin, and othere heresies so frequently on display. My advice is to get yer nose outta NEWSWEEK, and put it in scripture.
     
  14. Crabtownboy

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    The quote was not from Newsweek.

    And I'm certainly not going to take advice on Christianity from someone who says women pastors are fine, abortion isn't a sin, and othere heresies so frequently on display.

    I have never said abortion is not a sin. In fact I have said on a number of occasions that I am against abortion.

    My advice is to get yer nose outta NEWSWEEK, and put it in scripture.[/QUOTE]


    My advice is to read the Bible and learn of Jesus teachings on how we are to treat others.

    No where in the quite I gave in the OP is the government mentioned. In fact, no where in the short article is the government mentioned. But our moral duty is mentioned.
     
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    If you want to have your child vaccinated, that's your decision. But there's no way you're going to get us to have our children get wrapped up in this nonsense.

    And, for the record, we're not raising our children for the world. We're raising them for the glory of God.
     
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    I agree and what people don't understand is that by taking reasonable precautions, we can signifigantly mitigate the risks of airborne viruses.

    But the way vaccinations work is to inject you with the virus, plus some chemicals of a dubious nature.

    I feel much more comfortable just taking our chances with some common sense precautions than getting a vaccination.

    I don't believe it's a hill I want to die on (no pun intended) and I'm certainly not saying that I want to subject my children to harm, but I can't help but wonder if the day will ever come when we have to do like the Jehovah's Witnesses and "fake" innoculation scars. I won't go into details about what that means, but if you've ever known a JW over 40 years old or so, you know what I'm talking about.
     
  17. Bro. Curtis

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    The source was NEWSWEEK.

    Christians have the Holy Spirit to tell them when they are sinning. We don't need NEWSWEEK. And you have not retracted lies you have told about me, or explained why you called me a "bigot" so please don't tell me about Christ's teachings on how to treat others.

    And for the record, I never mentioned the government.
     
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    doesn't surprise me considering where it came from
     
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    Having nursed children left profoundly disabled after being ill with a disease that had a vaccine, I wonder if those children have a case to sue for damages through neglect by their parents? The fact by not vaccinating can put others at risk seems irresponsible to me as well.

    With the recent swine flu I was pretty annoyed when a health worker colleague came to work after being exposed to swine flu thus putting her coworkers and the critically ill at risk. A "typhoid mary" if you like, strikes me as criminal...

    Just a thought, not an attack on your comments....just an angle to debate. If the government then has a public health issue, does not the population in your country end up carrying the cost through taxation, it certainly does over here
     
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    You are right. One of my greatest irritations are the "Typhoid Marys" who go to work or church with terrible colds and pass them to other workers or to members of the church. It is the same in this case, except worse when parents will not attempt to keep their children from harm. How will they feel is one of their children dies from H1N1 and they knew there was a vaccine that might have prevented that child's death? I would find it very hard to live with if myself I were so irresponsible for the death of my child ... or of any child.

    I do hope and pray that no child anywhere dies from this type of neglect.

     
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