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Not to Vaccinate is a Sin

Discussion in 'Political Debate & Discussion' started by Crabtownboy, Oct 17, 2009.

  1. rbell

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    Nice job of destroying the contextual point of a Scripture passage.


    By the way, when did you renounce the idea of "Priesthood of the Believer?" I thought you were a Baptist at one time, and that's generally important to Baptists.

    So, is your "priest" the state now?

    What an unbiblical, bizarre idea to push. It tramples on "priesthood of the believer," and it simply ignores whom God expects to raise kids.

    I would expect someone of your intelligence to have seen that straightaway.


    This idea pushed by the Newsweek wingnuts isn't just dumb...it's stupid. Meta-stupid. It's going to form a stupid quasar and emanate stupid rays that can be measured light years away in all directions.
     
  2. targus

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    I find it nothing short of bizzare that the author of this thread that wants us to accept that not getting vaccinated for the flu is a sin...

    ...has no problem putting abortion supporters/promoters in positions of authority where they can further their funding and promotion of REAL SIN !!!
     
  3. Jim1999

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    More than half the women in this world accept abortion at one level or another. I think it is time to give up on that bandwagon, and attack the real problem.

    On flu vaccination. It may not be a sin, but it foolish this time around, in my opinion.

    Cheers,

    Jim
     
  4. Crabtownboy

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    In what way? The idea of being my brothers keeper being extended to the human family is one that has long been accepted in Christianity and Judaism



    So, yes we are out brothers keeper. Their blood, if we have ignored them or not helped them cries out.

    Those who reject the idea that we are all our brothers keeper, that we are to help all are using Cain's language. We are basically saying to God, "They are your responsible. I didn't create them, you did."




    Please elaborate on this. I do not see how being my brothers or brother's keeper violates the Priesthood of the Believer.

    The quote said nothing about the state.

    1. What if the parents are irresponisble?

    2. Are you saying the parents should develop a flu vaccine for their kids? I do not believe you meant that.


    I would expect someone of your intelligence to have seen that straightaway.


    This idea pushed by the Newsweek wingnuts isn't just dumb...it's stupid. Meta-stupid. It's going to form a stupid quasar and emanate stupid rays that can be measured light years away in all directions.[/QUOTE]

    Totally off topic rant. My quote did not come from Newsweek. Regardless, accept truth where you find it.
     
  5. rbell

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    Well now...I wasn't aware that we took votes and majority rule determined what sin was.

    I also wasn't aware that we were supposed to give up on an issue, simply because it was difficult.

    In addition, I wasn't aware that being pro-life was a "bandwagon." I guess there are fan club dues I am supposed to pay?

    Finally, I wasn't aware that the murder of children wasn't a "real problem." How many millions have to die before the problem is no longer "fake?"

    I know I commented on an off-topic post, but it was such a scary viewpoint, I had to say something.


    And you have a right to that opinion. But for those who say it is "sinful"...that's just plain ridiculous.
     
  6. rbell

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    God asked Cain about Abel...the "brother's keeper" comment by Cain was a "smart-aleck" response to God...He knew what God was talking about. Cain was trying to absolve himself of the sin in his heart with that question to God. That issue has nothing to do with getting a vaccine because certain bureacrats, doctors, and BB posters think you should (and certain others are skeptical).

    I and my wife researched the issue. We talked to our pediatrician...who is more qualified, likely smarter, and knows our issue better than you do. He advised us not to get it...even though he advised us to get the seasonal flu shot (which our kids did). We are also responsible enough to keep our kids away from others if they are sick, and we are decent enough parents to monitor our kids' health...and we will take action as needed.

    That's why your "points" are offensive to folks like me. You waltz into this subject with an air of superiority, and then act as if Christian parents such as myself are intentionally harming our children, or are just too plain stupid to care for them. Perhaps you should revisit a historic Baptist tenet, and think on this: Last time I checked, God can guide me without going through an intermediary on the BaptistBoard.

    I had a cousin who was hospitalized for over a week in 1976...from a reaction to the "safe and effective" swine flu vaccine. So am I hesitant? Of course I am...especially when the scare campaign and the fast-tracking are in high gear. I'm going to research, pray, consult (with real doctors, not CTB), and do what is best for my family.

    Sorry if that doesn't meet with your approval.
     
  7. Johnv

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    Choosing not to vaccinate is not categorically a sin. In certain specific situations, however, choosing not to vaccinate can qualify as irresponsible. To what extent that irresponsibility crosses the line to qualify as sin is probably an argument better suited fo a separate thread.
     
  8. rbell

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    I can agree with that.
     
  9. I Am Blessed 24

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    I hope it's not a sin, because Senior Citizens are not eligible to receive it. Only people between the ages of 2 to 45, with no health problems, are candidates. :-/

    I am moving this to a debate forum. It is a silly debate, IMO, but a debate nonetheless.
     
  10. Bro. Curtis

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    Thank you, Sue. :applause:

    I am proud to be among the ineligable.
     
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    Oh no. This cannot be. The CDC said we should do it. There are no risks those are just lies and misinformation.:rolleyes:
     
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    Yes, and people who support abortion is going to Hell... God said there will be no murderers in Heaven... and if people have the power to stop abortion, and turn their head they are guilty too.

    You can give up on it.. but I won't.

    Slavery ended because God fearing people saw the dignity of every innocent human life...
    The same will happen with Abortion.

    BTW, I agree it may not be a sin.. but it may be foolish to not be prepared for something that we can prevent.
     
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    Is it a sin to refuse the vaccine to those over 45 ?
     
  15. Johnv

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    So much for salvation being based on faith in Christ alone.
    If a person is uncomfortable with the vaccine, then they shouldn't take it.

    But if a person spreads hype over the supposed "dangers" of vaccination as a scare tactic, then there exists the possibility of that person being irresponsible to the point of qualifying as a sin. The same would be true of those spreading hype over the flu being the next doomsday virus or some such nonsense.
     
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    You misread the question. Is it a sin to discriminate against those over 45, where the vaccine is concerned ? Why does C.T.Boy's article allude to me being a sinner, when the vaccine isn't even available, for me ?
     
  18. Johnv

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    First of all, you ARE a sinner, as am I, but not for anything in this thread. Second, you dont' look a day over 45, so you better start sharing the secret to your longevity. Third, according to my own physician, he'll give it to any of his patients to ask for it, so long as he determines that it's medically appropriate for them, without regard to age.

    So my $.02 on the topic is, consult with your physician rather than presuming sin where none might exist.
     
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    Taking the op seriously is a sin.
     
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