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NT six literal days

Discussion in 'Other Christian Denominations' started by gekko, May 29, 2007.

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  1. gekko

    gekko New Member

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    help!

    is there any scripture references refering to the six literal days of creation back in genesis? or in general?

    did Jesus believe in the six literal days of creation?

    or was that word "day" in genesis translated wrong and should have been "era"? haha.

    please - is there any scripture in NT about six literal days of creation?
     
  2. J. Jump

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    Well they were six literal days. To my knowledge there is nothing in the NT that I can think of right off the top of my head that tells us this. However they weren't days of creation, but days of redemption.

    We know they are six 24-hour days because there was morning (light) and evening (darkness). So if these days were a 1,000 years as some suggest then you would basically have 500 years of light and 500 years of darkness, which would not allow the vegetation to survive, which then wouldn't allow the animals to survive. So it makes no sense that these days were longer than a normal 24-hour day.

    Hope that helps.

    Got some good reference material if you are interested. Just give me a PM.
     
  3. ccdnt

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    While I do not know of any NT verse that says that God created in six days, there are references in the NT to the Genesis account of the six days of creation being true. Jesus did believe in six literal days of creation since He is the one that said He created in six days.

    Here are some articles that deal with this:

    Did Jesus say He created in six days?
    Did God really take six days?
    Is Jesus Christ the Creator God?
     
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    tragic_pizza New Member

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    One would expect a prescientific peoples to accept the account.
     
  5. SBCPreacher

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    One would expect someone who believes the Bible to be true to accept the account. Sounds simple to me. Sure wasn't too difficult for God.
     
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    Amen SBCPreacher.
     
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    Oh, yeah, I forgot. I have to walk lockstep with your narrow interpretation or I am gong to Hell.

    :BangHead:
     
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    That's a little harsh, don't you think?

    I say this is not a hill worthy dying on...yet I tend to lean more towards a literal six-days. I would say we begin to miss the entire point of the first few chapters if we put too much time into this debate.
     
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    Gekko - try this advice I was given when I needed to advise a member of the younger generation on the literal 6 days.

    God has not lied in His creation and science is not to be afraid of -- it is just some of those interpretations which are so contrary to God!

    Here is the main website:
    http://www.setterfield.org/

    And here is the special section (which can be found linked on the front page)
    http://www.setterfield.org/Kidsandscience.html

    God bless you.
     
  10. Joseph M. Smith

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    Here we go again. There is no need to choose between science and the Bible. Genesis is poetry and theology, not science.

    Remember that Jesus of Nazareth -- fully God but also fully man -- was in His incarnation subject to the limits of a man of His day. He would have thought of creation in the terms pertinent to His time. And notice that I said, "thought", not "believed." The mechanism of creation is not an article of faith. That there was and is creation is, however.

    Not so incidentally, what do we make of recent discoveries/theories that the universe is continuing to expand at a tremendous rate? If that's true, it says to me that God is still creating.
     
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    The Lord Jesus quoted the OT many times. He talked of Jonah, Noah, Moses, Elijah. He quoted scripture many times from the OT, so it seems that Jesus validated the OT as truth. I think we can trust that if it says God created the world in 6 days, that He really did.
     
  12. J. Jump

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    Well we really don't know how long it took God to create the earth, because He doesn't tell us. We are just told:

    In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth.

    Verse 2 and continuing is talking about something else.
     
  13. SBCPreacher

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    I said nothing about your eternal destination. I'm just saying that I believe that God's Word is true - all of it, every single word. I'm sorry that you don't.

    I would rather believe every word of God's Word, and at the end of my life stand before God and hear Him say, "Well, I really didn't mean everything I said. I didn't mean for you to take it all literally," instead of NOT believing it was all true, and stand before Him and hear Him say, "I told you everything I wanted you to know. I meant every word of it. You should have believed and trusted Me."

    You make your choice about God's Word - I've already made mine.
     
  14. Darron Steele

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    I am not so sure I would dare to characterize the Lord of glory in this way.

    It is basically like saying `Christ did not know a whole lot when He was on this earth.' In light of what He said about His words being heeded, I personally would have a problem with this sentiment.
     
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    One would accept God's own people to accept HIS account.

    "FOR in SIX days the LORD MADE the heavens and the Earth the sea AND all that in them IS - and God rested on the seventh day" Exodus 20 -- that fact was then narrowed down to a razor fine point "so YOU TOO are to work for SIX days and rest on THE Seventh".

    One question asked of Orthodox Jewish Rabbis -- those that actively teach evolution is -- "is the term YOM as used in Exodus 20" being used ONE way for all the references back to creation and ANOTHER way for "so YOU should work for six days and rest on THE Seventh". And the answer was that it is the SAME word used in the SAME context by the SAME auhor -- no excuse IN THE TEXT can be found for inserting different meanings into the term as it is used verse after verse in Exodus 20:8-11

    But also notice that in that Exodus Argument God NOT ONLY affirms HIS OWN account of the SIX days but He even argues for THE VERY day that is THE seventh saying in Exodus 16 "TOMORROW is THE Sabbath".

    As for POST Cross - NT age affirmation - Isaiah 66 predicts that in a post cross world -- of the NEW Heavens and NEW Earth "From Sabbath to Sabbath shall ALL mankind come before Me to WORSHIP".

    The context for the "meaning" of Sabbath is equally clear in this OT text.

    Impossible to ignore if you ask me.

    In Christ,

    Bob
     
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    Indeed. There are 100's of quotes of the OT by NT authors starting with the 4 gospels!

    And ALL references to the term "SCRIPTURE" in the NT apply primarily to the OT!!

    In Christ,

    Bob
     
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    God said --

    Gen 2
    1 Thus the heavens and the earth were completed[/b], and all their hosts.
    2 By the seventh day God completed His work which He had done, and He
    rested on the seventh day from all His work which He had done.

    3 Then
    God blessed the seventh day and sanctified it, because in it He rested from all His work which God had created and made.[/quote]




    IV –
    Ex 20
    8 ""Remember the Sabbath day, to keep it holy.
    9 "" Six days
    you shall labor and do all your work,
    10 but the seventh day is the Sabbath of the LORD your God; in it you shall not do any work, you or your son or your daughter, your male or your female servant or your cattle or your sojourner who stays with you.
    11 ""
    For in six days the LORD made the heavens and the earth, the sea and all that is in them, and rested on the seventh day; therefore the LORD blessed the Sabbath day and made it holy.

    But J Jump said

    hmmm - who to believe here... Trust God or ... not!.:jesus:


    that's a tough one.:laugh:

    In Christ,

    Bob
     
  18. BobRyan

    BobRyan Well-Known Member

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    Try exegesis "instead".
     
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    Agreed. Barry has some good notes.
     
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