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Discussion in '2000-02 Archive' started by ken1burton, Apr 6, 2002.

  1. Don

    Don Well-Known Member
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    Eagle, I was trying to point out stuff to support your statements, not argue against you.

    Also, you attributed a statement or two to me that was actually made by Ken. No offense taken, though....
  2. LadyEagle

    LadyEagle <b>Moderator</b> <img src =/israel.gif>

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    Don, sorry for confusing the quotes but thanks for your support. All this babble gets me confused! LOL! :eek:
  3. Star

    Star New Member

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    Hey I'm still studying this out theres a heck of alot of Sevens in there, these aren't half of them. Not to speak of the other numbers they have significances but some not in themselves Such as Wisdom hewning her Seven Pillars... But I'm sure their just pretty sayings with no relevance whatsover. [​IMG]

    Just posting a handful of Sevens.

    Genesis 1:1 Seven days
    Gen41;3 Pharoahs dream given twice Seven years, then seven to establish
    Ex 2:16 Seven Daughters
    Exd 7:25 Seven days fulfilled
    Lev 26:21 Seven times more plagues
    Lev 26:24 Punish seven times
    Lev 26:28 Chastise you Seven times
    Num 8:2 Seven Lamps
    Num 12:14 Miriam shut out from camp Seven days
    Num 19:14 Unclean Seven days
    Numbers 23:1 Seven altars, Seven oxen, Seven rams
    Num 28:19 Seven lambs
    1Kings 18:43 Go again Seven times
    2Kings 11:21 Seven years old (began Reign)
    Lev 4:6 Sprinkle blood Seven times
    Prov 9:1 Wisdom hath builded her house, she hath hewn out her Seven pillars:
    Prov 26:25 Seven abominations
    Prov 25:64 Rigteous man falls Seven times and Riseth up
    Psalm 119:64 Praise Him Seven times a day
    Psalm 12:6 Gods word as Silver tried in a furnace of earth purified Seven times
    Dan 3:19 Furnance heated Seven times hotter
    Dan 4:16 Mans heart to Beast heart Seven times pass over
    *Mathew 18:21 Forgive Seven times? No Seventy times Seven*
    Isaiah 4:1 Seven women
    Isaiah 11;15 Seven streams
    Ezra 7:14 Seven counselors
    Mathew 22:45 Seven brethren
    Mark 8:5 Seven loaves
    Mark 16:9 Mary had Seven devils
    Rev 1:4 Seven Churches
    Rev 1:20 Seven stars (Angels) and Seven golden candlesticks (Churches)
    Rev 3:1Seven Spirits of God
    Rev 4:5 Seven lamps
    Rev 5:1 Seven seals
    Rev 8:2 Seven angels given Seven Trumpets
    Rev 10:3 Seven thunders (not written down)
    Rev 12:3 Seven Heads (ten horns) Seven Crowns (on the heads)
    Rev 13:1 Seven Heads (ten horns) Ten Crowns (on horns)
    Rev 15:6 Seven Plagues
    Rev 15:7 Seven golden viles full of Gods wrath
    Rev 17:9 Seven heads are Seven Mountains
    Rev 17:10 Seven kings

    What significance do you derive from the numbers as players in prophesy?

    In Him Kim
  4. Don

    Don Well-Known Member
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    Gen 14:4 12 years
    Gen 17:20 12 princes
    Gen 25:16 12 princes
    Gen 35:22 12 sons
    Gen 49:28 12 tribes
    Mat 9:20 12 years
    Mat 10:1 12 disciples
    Mat 19:28 12 thrones
    Mat 26:53 12 legions of angels
    Acts 19:7 12 men
    Acts 24:11 12 days
    Rev 12:1 12 stars
    Rev 21:12 12 gates
    Rev 21:14 12 foundations
    Rev 21:16 12 thousand furlongs
    Rev 21:21 12 pearls
    Rev 22:2 12 fruits
    Ezekiel 38:24 9 talents
    Numbers 29:6 9 bullocks
    Numbers 34:14 9 tribes
    Deut 3:11 9 cubits
    Jos 15:44 9 cities
    2 Sam 24:8 9 months
    2 Kings 14:2 9 years
    1 Chron 3:8 9 sons
    Luke 15:4 99 sheep
    Luke 17:17 9 lepers

    I guess numbers are as significant as we make them....
  5. Star

    Star New Member

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    Heres some "sixes" [​IMG]

    Genesis 1Man created sixth day
    Gen30:20 six sons
    Gen 31:41 served Six years (for thy cattle)
    Exodus 16:26 Six days gather it
    Exodus 20:9 Six days shalt thou labor
    Exodus 20:11 Six days the Lord made haeven and earth, and sea
    Exodus 21:2 Six years Hebrew Servent shall serve
    Exodus 23:10 Six years thou shall sow in thy land
    Exodus 23:12 Six days do thy work
    Exodus 24:16 the Cloud covered it Six days
    Exodus 25:32 Six branches shall come out of the sides (Three each side)
    Exodus 26:9 thou shalt double the sixth curtain
    Exodus 28:10 Six of their names on one stone and Six on the other stone
    Exodus 36:27 Six boards
    Lev 24:6 Six in a row
    Numbers 7:3 Six covered wagons
    Numbers 35:18 Six cities
    Joshua 6:3 Encompass the city Six days
    Judges 12:7 Jephthah judged Israel six years
    Judges 40:7 Six hundred men
    Ruth 3:15 Six measures of barely
    1Sam 13:5 Six thousand horsemen
    1Sam 17:4 Goliaths heigth was Six cubits and a span*
    1Sam 17:7 Six hundred shekels of Iron
    2Sam21:20 Six fingers, Six toes twenty four in number*
    1King 6:6 Six cubits broad
    1Kings 11:16 Joab remained in Isreal Six months
    2Kings 5:5 Six thousand peices of Gold
    2Chron 11:3 Hid with her in the house of the Lord Six years
    2Kings 15:8 the son of Jeroboam reign over Israel in Samaria Six months.
    1Chron 3:4 Six were born unto Him in Hebron
    1Chron 3:22 Six Sons of Shechaniah
    1Chron 4:27 Shimei Six daughters
    1Chron 8:38 azel had Six sons
    1Chron 23:4 Six thousand were officers and judges
    1Chron 25:3 Six under the hand of thei father
    1Chron 26:17 Six levites
    2Chron1:17 Brought forth a chariot for Six hundred shekles of Silver
    2Chron 3:8 Six hundred talents
    2Chron 9:13 Six talents of Gold
    2Chron 9:15 Six hundred shekles of beaten gold went to one target
    2Chron 9:18 Six steps to the Throne
    Ezra 2:13 The children of Adonikam, Six hundred Sixty and Six.
    Job 5:19 He shall deliver you in Six troubles yea in Seven
    Job 42:12 Six thousand Camels
    Prov 6:16 Six things doth the Lord hate: yea, Seven are an abomination
    Isaiah 6:2 Seraphims each one had Six wings
    Jerm 34:14 Servedd Six years
    Ezek 9:2 Behold Six men came from the way of the higher gate
    Ezek 40:5 A measuring reed of Six cubits long by the Cubit and the hand breath
    Ezek 40:12 little chambers were Six cubits broad on one side Six on the other
    Ezek 41:1 measured posts Six cubits broad on one side and the other
    Ezek 41:3 The Door measured Six Cubits breadth of the Door Seven cubits

    Ezek 41:8 House round about: foundations of side chambers were a full reed of Six cubits
    Ezek 46:1 The gate of the inner court that loketh toward the east shall be shut Six working days on the Sabboth it shall be opened in the day of the new moon.
    Ezek 41:8 Six great cubits
    Ezek 46:4 Six lambs without blemish
    Dan 3:1 Image of Gold height threescore cubits and breadth thereof Six cubits
    Mathew 17:1 After Six days Jesus took Peter, James, and John to a hig mountain apart
    John 2:6 Six waterpots filled with water
    Rev 4:8 Four beasts with Six wings
    Rev 13:18 Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number [is] Six hundred threescore [and] six.

    Rev 14:20 And the winepress was trodden without the city, and blood came out of the winepress, even unto the horse bridles, by the space of a thousand [and] Six hundred furlongs.

    There must be some importance to numbers or else why would God put them in?

    The woman with the five husbands struck me once I still don't understand the significance outside the obvious story.

    She said she had no husband, Jesus said she anwered Correctly saying you have had Five husbands the one you have now is not your husband. Then theres the verse in Revelation that nags me in the connection somehow that speak of "Five have fallen one IS the other has not yet come". As weird as these two seem as being connected somehow I can't fight the feeling that they are. But thats another itch to add to the many I have.

    In Him Kim
  6. post-it

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    Well then how to you explain every other number between 1-9 being used over and over. I just picked the number 8 and did a search like you did with 6.
    The fact is that the smaller numbers 1-9 are used the most. NO Secret code or special meaning.
    I stopped this list at Judges. You had 20 listings of the number 6, I have 22. The odds say dictated it would occur.

    they cut down another eighteen thousand IsraelitesHe had forty sons and thirty grandsons, who rode on seventy donkeys. He led Israel eight years.
    subject to Israel, and the land had peace for eighty years
    For eighteen years they oppressed all the Israelites
    In all you must give the Levites forty-eight towns
    subject to Eglon king of Moab for eighteen years
    While you plant during the eighth year, you will eat from the old crop
    Then on the eighth day he must bring two doves
    'On the sixth day prepare eight bulls
    to whom the Israelites were subject for eight years
    On the eighth day Gamaliel son of Pedahzur, the leader of the people of Manasseh
    On the eighth day he must bring them for his cleansing to the priest
    and on the eighth day hold a sacred assembly and present an offering
    On the eighth day Moses summoned Aaron
    Milcah bore these eight sons to Abraham's
    Isaac lived a hundred and eighty years
    give them to me on the eighth day.
    All the curtains are to be the same size-twenty-eight cubits
    So there were eight frames and

    Isaac was eight days
    Abram was eighty-six years old
    every male among you who is eight days old
  7. post-it

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    What you are practicing is called the false science of Numerology.

    If you want to see it in action watch this.
    The verse in the OT that introduces "pi" has more to it than meets the eye. Many people think that the Bible got the interger of pi wrong. But it was secretly hidden right in that very verse.The verse is 1 Kings 7:23 in which a circular "molten sea" with a diameter of 10 cubits and a circumference of 30.

    Let's have fun and see how we can create anything we want after a fact has been established.

    1 Kings 7:23
    The initial 1 (from 1 Kings), subtracted from the terminal 23, gives the ratio 7:22 and 22 divided by 7 is 3.14+, a fair approximation of pi. For a still better value, twice 7 is 14, half of 2 is 1, and twice 3 is 6. Ths gives 1416, the first four decimals of an excellent approximation of pi.

    [ April 11, 2002, 01:05 PM: Message edited by: post-it ]
  8. post-it

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    Star, you will really be impress with the number 32.

    water freezes at 32 degrees
    There are 32 crystal classes.
    Man has 32 teeth
    There are 32 electrons in the filled 4th energy level of atoms
    There are 32 fundamental, long-lived particles.
    Eddington's find-sturcture constant, 137, is the 32nd odd prime.
    32 is 2 raised to the power obtaied by adding 3 and 2.
    Franklin Dl. Roosevelt ws the 32nd president, elected in the the year '32
    Adding 3 and 2 gives you the 2rd number of the Fibonacci sequence.
    Dividing any Fibonacci sequence by the next higher number equals 1.618 which when added together 1+6+1+8=16 and then doubled (one for each of the 2 numbers(16x2)) equals 32.

    [ April 11, 2002, 12:43 PM: Message edited by: post-it ]
  9. post-it

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    After all is said and done with the number games. It hasn't comforted me nor will it comfort a person going through life's problems. The meaning of the words from the Bible will.

    We need to lean on God's words, not a number sequence. God Bless you on your search for truth, it need not be proven by calculations but rather the truth of his words and love.
  10. Don

    Don Well-Known Member
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    Apparently, Star, you have a lot more time on your hands than I do.... [​IMG]
  11. rlvaughn

    rlvaughn Well-Known Member
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