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Nunes ‘Unmasking’ Report Vindicates Trump Claims on Surveillance

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  1. Calminian

    Calminian Well-Known Member
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    Now we're getting somewhere! The fake news media is pulling out all the stops. Thank God we have a president who fights back. Bottom line, I'd prefer Trump's position over Comey's right now.

    Nunes ‘Unmasking’ Report Vindicates Trump Claims on Surveillance

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    House Intelligence Committee chair Rep. Devin Nunes (R-CA) announced on Wednesday that he had learned that members of President Donald Trump’s transition team had been under surveillance by the Obama administration, that individual names had been “unmasked” by the intelligence community, and that those names had been leaked to the media.

    Nunes’s information — which he said he would deliver to the White House later — vindicates the bulk of Trump’s claims earlier this month.

    Nunes said that while there was no direct “wiretap” by President Barack Obama of Trump Tower, there was indeed surveillance — perhaps collected incidentally — of people close to Trump, possibly including Trump himself.

    Much of that had been suspected, on the basis of mainstream media reports, but Rep. Nunes reported something new: that the surveillance did not involve the ongoing Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) inquiry into Russia’s alleged involvement in the 2016 presidential election. Indeed, none of the surveillance had intelligence value, he said.

    “I believe it was all done legally,” Nunes told a press conference. The question, he said, was why names of those swept up in the surveillance had been leaked. The collection of the intelligence appeared to have been legal, but the leaking may have been illegal.

    Most of the activity occurred during the transition period from November to January. Furthermore, Nunes said, he did not know whether phone calls — including phone calls involving Trump — were among the communications captured.

    Nunez added that the new information had come to light after Monday’s hearing with FBI Director James Comey, when the congressman had appealed to anyone with new information to come forward. He said the new revelations had been “legally brought to me by sources who thought that we should know it.

    The new information vindicates earlier reporting by Breitbart News, Mark Levin, and others, and which President Trump may have relied upon in tweeting the wiretapping claim Mar. 4.

    Following Monday’s hearing, the mainstream media appeared to celebrate Comey’s statement that there was no evidence of wiretapping at Trump Tower. Politicians, too, piled on — including some Republicans, like Sen. Jeff Flake (R-AZ), who demanded that Trump apologize to Obama.

    However, the only new revelation at the hearing was that senior members of the Obama administration may have been involved in “unmasking” former General Michael Flynn in intelligence reports.

    Wednesday’s revelations by Rep. Nunes confirm earlier media reports of surveillance of Trump aides and associates, with the added twist that the revelations were unrelated to investigations of Russian ties to the Trump campaign.

    No evidence of any collusion between Russia and the Trump campaign has been found, and former Obama administration intelligence officials have said publicly that such evidence does not exist.

    Though the media, and the political opposition, had attacked Trump for his claims about wiretapping, he later clarified that he had used the term to refer to surveillance in a general sense. He also suggested that more evidence would soon emerge.

    The result is a vindication of Trump’s controversial claims. Questions remain about whether President Obama himself knew of the surveillance, which other Obama administration officials were involved, and whether Trump was monitored directly.​
     
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    There was never a doubt that he and his staff were under surveillance. Using the term "wire tapped" gave his enemies an easy out. Maybe he will learn, but OTOH, wasn't that term in quotation marks on his tweet?

    Perhaps he knew the left would seize on that term and dig themselves a deeper hole. That's happening.
     
  3. Calminian

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    Maybe. Trump doesn't bother with the normal rules of politics. He speaks his mind, not walking on eggshells, and not always searching for the perfect word. People get up in arms, but in the end, I don't think it matters.
     
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    Was it?

    Lol, you actually think he's that smart? It'd be cool if he is.
     
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    Is this being reported by NBC, CBS or ABC?

    HankD
     
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    He was probably coached from day one and it worked!

    HankD
     
  7. Calminian

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    Er, you actually think you're smarter than Trump?
     
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    You're not serious, right?
     
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    Er, no. Never said it nor implied it. But who knows, I might be!
     
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    Well, that'd be cool too. Guess I'm looking for something to shore up my confidence some, because he sure is catching it from all sides.
     
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    Why don't you go chill out?
     
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    Me? I'm very chilled.
     
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    Translation: He's catching it from democrats, Hollywood and the media.
     
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    Yes, it was in quotation marks.

    He is good at manipulating the media, but I believe it was in quotes because he was simply quoting the New York Times article. Their word. Not his.

    But the media knew they had to use the term literally for it to even stand a chance of being untrue. Certainly the Times did. They knew he had been under surveillance. They reported it.
     
  15. Calminian

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    Headline on Lou Dobbs right now:

    "Trump Vindicated"

    This is going to get interesting. Why did Comey deny the surveillance?
     
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    He didn't. He denied "wiretapping". He basically admitted other surveillance.

    The media just kinda keeps skipping over that. They have to stick with "wiretapping" in the literal sense.

    Just like it was okayed by Obama indirectly through the AG.
     
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    And it now appears Trump may have cut a deal on healthcare reform. Freedom Caucus and Mark Meadows are speaking very positively. Could be another YUGE victory for Trump. YUGE!
     
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    That ain't gonna cut it. Comey is crooked. He's going to resign in disgrace.
     
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    Off topic. start another.
     
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    I'm waiting for more info. Thread coming. Just wetting appetites.
     
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