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Oath on the Koran

Discussion in 'Political Debate & Discussion' started by Ps104_33, Nov 29, 2006.

  1. tinytim

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    I don't know, but this might explain it....


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  2. Not_hard_to_find

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    A muslim quoted I Corinthians 9:22 to me as proof that the Bible instructs Christians to lie in order to convert.

    His interpretation appears to be as valid as yours -- opinion only.
     
  3. LadyEagle

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    Red herring alert.
     
  4. I Am Blessed 24

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    Not a red herring. Off topic response to a specific statement. I do apologize for being off topic for a moment.
     
  6. NaasPreacher (C4K)

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    Whats all the fuss here? Taking your oath on a Bible is a man-made tradition, not supported by the Bible or the Constitution. The United States, like every other nation on the face of the earth is a secular state.

    If a Christian can choose or not choose to take his oath a Bible why should a Muslim not be afforded the right to choose the Koran? Would you all rather have him mock the word of God by falsely swearing on it? There are already far too many politicians doing that every election. At least this man has the guts to admit that he does not accept the authority of God's word, unlike the vast majority of liars and deceivers who use the Bible as nothing more than a political prop.
     
  7. Alcott

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    He should be acknowledged as having the right to use his book in swearing. But if I lived in that district and had any consideration of running for that seat in the next election, I would make certain photos and tapes, including closeups of his face and his Qaran, are available to use in my campaign.
     
  8. NaasPreacher (C4K)

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    Actually, I am wrong here of course, there are religious states, but would you want to be part of one?
     
  9. Bro. James

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    Koran in the Congress

    Another good example of: the enemy is in the camp. Satan will not go down without a fight.

    Now what?

    Choose wisely,

    Bro. James
     
  10. carpro

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    Ellison will take the oath of office without his hand on either the Bible or koran, just like every other Congressman.
     
  11. Magnetic Poles

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    IMO, they should swear on the Constitution they are pledging to defend. They should also read it...apparently most have not.
     
  12. Ps104_33

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    I suppose that we cans also argue as to which version of the Bible should be used for a swearing in ceremony. Is just any old Bible good enough?
    Would the New World Translation be adequate? What about the Ghetto Ebonics Version? The King James? NIV? Anton Levay's Satanic Bible? Is this a slippery slope?
     
  13. Baptist in Richmond

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    Greetings 777:

    Welcome to the board!

    Okay, but what exactly does that mean?

    That doesn't really mean anything. What if a Christian was in a Muslim country, and was compelled to take the oath of office while placing his/her hand on the Bible? If the person feels that the oath means more by placing his/her hand on the Koran, then more power to them. They were elected to represent the district.

    That is not for him to prove or disprove. Glenn Beck interviewed Ellison and made an inexcusable statement to him.

    http://mediamatters.org/items/200611150004

    Now, if you were a Muslim American, and you watched this program, imagine how that would make you feel. Beck asked Ellison to prove that he is "not working with our enemies." What was the basis for this question? Was it a known tie to the enemies? Was it a result of statements that seemingly implied that he was anti-American? No, the reason his patriotism and/or allegiance was called into question was simply his religious affiliation.

    Glenn provided a lesson to all of us with his egregious statements: if you are compelled to insert a statement that you mean "no offense" when you are making a statement or asking a question, then you probably shouldn't make that statement or ask that question......

    Remember: in this country, we are innocent until proven guilty. This whole prove your innocence accusation is anti-American. It was when McCarthy did it to numerous people, and it is now. Questioning one's patriotism simply as a result of one's religion (or lack thereof) is wrong.

    Again, a sincere welcome to the board. I trust that you and yours are doing well on this beautiful Sunday,
    BiR
     
  14. Baptist in Richmond

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    :laugh: :applause:

    Hope all is well with you and yours, Magnetic Poles,
    BiR
     
  15. LadyEagle

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    This would never happen. But if you meant to say Quran, that would never happen, either.
     
  16. Magnetic Poles

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    Likewise, BiR. I pray God's blessings for you and your family.
     
  17. Baptist in Richmond

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    Greetings LadyEagle!

    No, I meant the Bible. If you are correct in your observation, wouldn't that further reinforce the differences between us and them? In our country, we have the liberty to use our religious texts to take our oaths of office. I for one am proud to live in a country like that.

    Hope you and yours are well in Tennessee (I was just there a week ago),
    BiR
     
  18. The Galatian

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    We have atheists in Congress, as well as Mormons and Jews and Christians. One more religion is unlikely to shake the foundations.
     
  19. KenH

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    A voice of reason. :thumbs:
     
  20. LadyEagle

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    Oh, the foundations are already gone, so there is nothing left to shake.


    Doing well, BiR. Thanks. Have a Merry Christmas.
     
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