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Oath on the Koran

Discussion in 'Political Debate & Discussion' started by Ps104_33, Nov 29, 2006.

  1. Vera Hammoudeh

    Vera Hammoudeh New Member

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    Well from what i have seen from our own leader he lies so what would be the diffirence on what Bible you would be sworn into office on, Really?
    So to me the Muslim Qur’an is just as good to swear on as the Christian Bible is in my eyes.
    Beside its not the book that is going to make you be truthful or not, its who you are & what type of person you are inside , & if you have any morals or not.
    But i can tell you that the "Christian Bible" is not going to make you be truthful a bit more then the "Qur’an" is going to make you a lier. You are who you want to be no matter what a book says to do or not to do.

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  2. El_Guero

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    Evil is evil.

    In any book . . . but, if ain't God's Word - then it belongs to the devil.
     
  3. 777

    777 Well-Known Member
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    Thank you for your welcome.

    It means everything symbolically. A Christian elected to office will NEVER have to worry about being sworn in on the Bible or Koran in a Muslim country, they are all theocracies.


    "Mediamatters"? Uhhhhhhhhhh......

    It was a rude BUT valid question IMO, on Beck's part, but:

    http://www.militantislammonitor.org/article/id/2551

    Elsion went ahead and sent in the videotape to his CAIR supporters, actions speak louder than words.

    Who's trying to convict Elison of anything? It appears as though his professed "religion" makes NO sense at all, far-left black separtism does not mix with either Biblical nor Koran teachings.

    Thanks again. Hope your weekend went well, also. God Bless.
     
  4. pinoybaptist

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    Ha ! He can take the oath on a Dean Koontz book, if he wants. For that matter, anyone can take an oath with their hands on any book, on anything, or anywhere, even on their flip-flops, or with their fingers sticking into their belly buttons. Most oaths are not honored anyway.
     
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  6. 777

    777 Well-Known Member
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    Yo ^ thanks for that link. Turnabout's fairplay, Prager's response to the response:

    http://www.townhall.com/columnists/...solution&ns=DennisPrager&dt=12/05/2006&page=2

    Of course, now CAIR is trying to destroy him:

    http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,234237,00.html

    Multicultrialism.

    Then what's all the fuss about? Some might still think an oath means something, no?
     
  7. Magnetic Poles

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    From the fox news story linked above:

    <deleted LE> Prager obviously needs to read the Constitution, particularly Article VI, Section 3, which reads:
    Prager is way out of line.
     
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  8. Baptist in Richmond

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    No problem - looking forward to debating.

    Think about what you are writing here. Remember that swearing on the Bible is not a requirement. It is simply a photo op....

    Exactly what do you mean by that? I know you aren't going to claim that they only attack right-wing outlets, or that they are pushing an agenda. Don't forget that they are often critical of the New York Times as well as the networks, most notably when ABC chose to air that pathetic miniseries.

    What would you do?

    To quote Glenn Beck:
    "With that being said, you are a Democrat. You are saying, 'Let's cut and run.' [See comment 1 below.] And I have to tell you, I have been nervous about this interview with you, because what I feel like saying is, 'Sir, prove to me that you are not working with our enemies.' [See comment 2 below.]
    And I know you're not. I'm not accusing you of being an enemy, but that's the way I feel, and I think a lot of Americans will feel that way."

    1. This is intellectual dishonesty. Did Ellison ever actually say that we should "cut and run?" Beck didn't say that he believes Ellison's position is that we should "cut and run," he claimed that Ellison was actually saying that we should "cut and run." Ellison should have demanded that Beck produce a quote. After all, Beck is the one who made the claim.

    2. If Glenn Beck isn't saying this, then why did he say it? If he isn't implying it, then why did he say it? Beck claimed that he wasn't asking it, but he did ask it.

    Yet, despite this, he was elected by his constituency. Remember that neither of us are Muslim, so we are not really qualified to comment on the doctrine of Islam.

    Thank you for that. Mine was fantastic. I am now headed to North Carolina on a business trip (I travel extensively). If you respond to me, and there is a delay, I am probably VERY busy with work. I will respond though, so keep this going.

    Have a great week,
    BiR
     
  9. 777

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    What you didn't read was the article, he stated just that several times.


    Then, what's the problem? If it shouldn't matter, why do you think it does for Elison?

    Which pathetic minseries? Clinton's or Reagan's? Both, um, <stunk - edited LE>.

    MediaMatters is a left-wing "watchdog" group over the media they dominate.

    Not send in the videotape.


    This sounds more about Iraq than the oath, I don't see a way it's possible to prove you're not "working with the enemy" to Beck's satisfaction.

    Still, it's just another unfair interview, same old.

    What Beck was doing there was to rephrase Elison's policy.

    1. he was saying it, 2. he was implying it, 3. interview technique.

    Wouldn't have been under sharia law.

    No, you don't have to be a member of any religion to comment on what the Koran clearly states.

    Well, okay, I'll keep checking back. I used to live in airports, now write copy from home 90% of the time. God Bless.
     
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  10. Baptist in Richmond

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    The miniseries about the whole 9/11 investigation. Despite several people claiming that many of the events in the film didn't happen, they chose to air it anyway.

    MediaMatters takes on BOTH sides of the political spectrum.

    On that point, we agree.

    Thank you very much for that. I am in Charlotte, and can barely keep my eyes open, so I am headed to sleep. I trust that you and yours are doing well.

    Regards,
    BiR
     
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    I wouldn't even consider Keith Elison a "real Democrat", he's more DLP, Minnesota's version of the Democrat Party, not leftward enough for them.

    Because it was a "docudrama", any event will be distorted if it can be sensationalized. What's even worse about them is that's the only "historical account" many of their viewers will ever get, even though, the fresher the history, the more accurate the interpertation can be.


    Yeah, but the ratio is at least three criticisms of conservative media to one of liberal. Subscribe to it? Then count the number of times MM defends Keith Olbermann's "worst person in the world" award.


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