Obama: A Hidden Agenda?

There was no personal attack by me. I simply exposed your poor behavior.

You made a false accusation of "selfishness" against anyone who does not support your Marxist view. This was an attack on everyone on this board who is not Marxist. And you know it.

It was a strawman because it is not the only way to handle the scenario. But that is how it is consistently being presented. You Marxists make no attempt to say your view is the best way out of many, only that it is the only option and anyone who opposes it does so simply out of selfishness. Since I consider you to be at and intelligence level that far exceeds such an argument it becomes painfully obvious that you wish to use immature debate tactics which is to set your option up as the only other option or everyone who opposes it is selfish. It is a false and immature argument.

Our country was set up on a limited federal government. These expansions do not coincide with the framers intent. Promoting the common welfare is not a blank check and cannot be reasonably argued to support Marxist government principles. But then you already know that.

Comparisons to fire and police dept. fail to meet Federal health care as a comparison. I still do not know why liberals have such a hardf time making legitimate comparisons. But yours is just one more example of that failure. Those are handled on a local level. We are talking about a limited federal government of which this country was founded on. And is the very thing Marxists like yourself want to change.

 

[qupte=Paul3144]Answer this: If Canada's healthcare is so bad, why do they have a longer life expectancy and spend less money on healthcare? [/quote]Actually, American life expectancy is increasing, and there are also inconsistencies in the way those stats are tabulated. It is not so cut and dried. If it were truly better up there, then there would be no Canadians crossing the border for health care, a fact that is indisputable.

 

If you are so concerned, you can send the government an extra portion of your income and stop advocating the theft of mine.

I'd be willing to bet your bleeding heart that you don't pay a penny in taxes that you don't have to. :smilewinkgrin:

 

Because the US props them up when their Canadian residence come here to get what they cannot get reasonably and timely there.

 

So now I am a Marxist? Tell you what bub, I work for a living, and actually contribute to the GDP and the economy you seem to hate; rather than living off the donations of others and spending all day, every day posting on some Internet bulletin board. How very Marxist of me.

 

Thats right. You want this country to live by Marxist economic and political principles.

 

Man! Are you in trouble now? MP has called you "bub".

That's short for rednecked bubba, ain't it?

 

As you have previously mentioned, you have never read Marx. Therefore you would not know a Marxist if one snuck up behind you and bit your rear end. You remind me of the guy with the toilet paper stuck to his shoe...continually embarrassing himself, but totally unaware why.

 

I would have called him "bulb", but he ain't that bright.

 

You have no idea what you're talking about and you look foolish when you say crazy things like that. Maybe you should read Marx and learn what he actually said. Besides, Marx was against religion and I'm clearly not.

 

He's not the one that's advocating the government steal more of my money to satisfy his own sense of who should have what.

That would be you, Mr. MP.

And every penny the government takes from me is one less that I have to actually do some real good with.

 

Fallacious argument. One person can't do it alone. Hence the need for the government to have a role.

 

There's the problem. Mitch would have to actually READ. It is easier to listen to Glen Beck on Fox and spend his days incessantly puking out such nonsense on the Internet.

 

Actually, healthcare reform would reduce costs thereby lowering the amount of money people pay into the system. The death panels at the private health insurance companies don't care about providing healthcare, only about making money by killing people by denying care.

 

Meaning I was right. You don't pay a penny in taxes you don't have to.

Instead, advocating equal misery for all. A true socialist.

 

You're delusional.

 

Thanks for illustrating my point. :thumbsup:

 

So Paul's delusional and I am a Marxist. This the best reasoned argument you guys got?

 

You continue to make false arguments just as MP does. It is false that if you do not espouse every single idea of Marx that you do not hold to Marxist principles. Libbies work hard to try to evade appropriate labels by using the perfect standard. It is simply not true. Collecting taxes to supply the needs that people should work and provide for themselves is always Marxist. That was his core value. You should read Marx instead of following in Mp's footsteps and getting your indoctrination from Media Matters and CNN.

 

You are what you are. Your own arguments bear witness to that fact. No other evidence is needed.