Obama: A Hidden Agenda?

Gotcha! :wavey:

But let's say I give you that. What about the army and navy? You want your own marines too? Or is there nothing that isn't better done individually?

And what about those who can't afford it? Let their homes burn?

 

As a veteran, I can say with utmost confidence that it is the most ineptly run, bureaucratic nightmare on Earth. The only good thing about the Military is the non-coms. Why do you think they pay $600 for a hammer ?

And everyone should pay a 20% tax. Nothing more, nothing less. That's biblical.

 

Your argument is specious.

National defense is the constitutional responsibility of the federal government.

Health insurance isn't.

 

Not at all. It falls under promotion of the general welfare. However, my argument is not about the constitutionality...rather if it is something we can do better and cheaper as one large group, rather than fractured, every man for himself.

Do you use public (socialized) highways? Where is that in the constitution?

 

Another ill-run program, fraught with union corruption, and cost overruns.

 

Not to mention the commerce clause.

Article I, Section 8 "To establish Post Offices and Post Roads;"

 

So you guys are promising me that free health care for all will be run as efficiently as the military, the police & fire departments, and the highway departments ?



Shudder.

 

No, you have to pay for it. I'm not even proposing single payer, I want people to be able to choose between private and public options.

 

That's because you don't understand what a public option will do. It is designed to drive private insurance companies out of business. I believe I have explained that to you, before.

 

There are plenty of other things for them to insure, rather than profiteering on the health of Americans.

 

Two words.....John Edwards.

 

That will, no doubt , be tested in the courts if this obamanation of a healthcare act passes congress. Along with other provisions that are clearly a violation of the Constitution.

 

Basically I agree, but the VA and the Postal Service give them a run for their money.

 

"The powers that really run things ."
And that would be?

 

The Bilderbergers.

www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1085589.html

 

Bet it's a gov'ment job.

 

That's what liberal political scientists would have you believe. In reality, the political spectrum has anarchy on one end and totalitarianism on the other. Fascism and Marxism are side-by-side. You don't have to bend it like a circle or a horseshoe, you just have to have your eyes open.

 

You'd lose that bet.