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Obama Born in Kenya Lawsuit/Controversy

Discussion in 'Political Debate & Discussion' started by LadyEagle, Oct 17, 2008.

  1. LeBuick

    LeBuick New Member

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    Not to mention, he's been getting the presidential breifs for well over a month. No way he'd be given secrets unless he'd been thouroughly vetted. I guess we figure this guy can do a better job than the FBI when it comes to checking background facts.
     
  2. poncho

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    Okay everybody it's now been written. "Thou shalt not pay attention to this any longer". :laugh:

    I have one last question...if the republicons can use forged documents in their quest to put us on the path to an unnecessary war for world government why can't the democrooks use them to install the Bilderberg queen?
     
  3. targus

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    It's not mine to drop. I didn't bring the suit.

    Perhaps you should then tell Obama to produce it in court where it would make a difference.

    Well, since you seem to be implying that you are capable of thinking...

    Perhaps you could explain why Obama doesn't just produce the documentation necessary to prove that he meets the Constitutional requirements to be President.

    Why would you think this? If it were not known at that time that he was not qualilfied (if he in fact not) how would it have made a difference in the primaries?

    Is Obama supposed to be the dog or the rat in your Russina saying?
     
  4. poncho

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  5. Crabtownboy

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    Obama Birth Certificate

    Go to: http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn227/Polarik/BO_Birth_Certificate.jpg
    He was born in Hawaii.


    Also, it does not matter if he was born in Kenya. His mother was an American citizen, so he would be a natural born American citizen.

    Just like McCain. McCain was born outside the United States at the Coco Solo Naval Air Station, Panama Canal Zone, Panama. But because his parents were US citizens John is also a natural born US citizen.
     
  6. poncho

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    So...you're calling his grandmother a liar? Don't know how Barry Soetoro feels about it but to me thems fightin words pardner. :smilewinkgrin:

    http://texasdarlin.wordpress.com/2008/09/25/breaking-obama-admits-dual-citizenship/
     
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  7. targus

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    Perhaps. There are questions before the court concerning the validity of the birth certificate


    Perhaps. There are questions before the court concerning the age of his mother at the time of his birth which would impact his status.

    You are also neglecting the question of his adoption by his step father.

    Such an adoption may changed his citizenship to Indonesion.

    The uncertainties of these issues is why the case is before the court.
     
  8. LeBuick

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    He apparently has no need to produce this document in court. He hasn't done it yet and the authorities know exactly where he is and there has been no arrest. It also seems the election is proceeding without him paying this chatter any attention. Anyone looking for him to produce this document isn't voting for him anyway so what does he have to gain? I'd blow this off also.

    People loosing their future, sleeping in streets and making the ultimate sacrifice in two wars and the most you guys can worry about is someone birth certificate?
     
  9. targus

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    Not yet... but if the judge rules that he must produce the requested documents he will - or file yet another motion to stall.

    Haven't you heard... we don't bother picking up illegal aliens anymore.

    Actually, he is paying attention to the chatter in that he is paying a team of lawyers to duck the issue. Instead of just producing the basic documents that the rest of us do all the time - like when we apply for a passport.

    If he doesn't (or simply can't) produce the documents he may have a lot to loose. Perhaps his gain would be to avoid that loss?
     
  10. LeBuick

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    Good point, Obama has a passport so he must have satisfied the government requirements.
     
  11. targus

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    Then why do you suppose that he is stalling instead of just doing so now?
     
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    Cute, poncho. These young whippersnappers on here won't know the name of the tune, though, lol.

    Good article you posted, btw. Hope all is well.
     
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    I would venture to say that the Obama defenders on here haven't bothered to look at the video or at the screen shot in the OP, as evidenced by their replies. Otherwise, they would already know about his mother's age, etc. These things were clearly explained in the video.
     
  14. LeBuick

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    Sounds to me, at least for everything I know, he can just show his passport. However why bother? I would ignore this stuff also which is why he has a staff of mouth pieces.

    All of these are just tactics and detracting from the important issues. Like someone told me, if he did produce his certificate for this court there will be 5 frivolous suites taking this ones place asking for even crazier and more worthless stuff. The FBI vetted him like all Presidential candidates and has given him a clearance since he is getting the presidential briefings each morning. If we trust the FBI to check out ACORN why don't we trust them to vet our president?
     
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    This vetting included a check on his citizenship status?
     
  16. LeBuick

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    When I received a TS clearance in the Military they checked everything. They even spoke to high school friends. I am sure the president has a much higher clearance than I so I am sure they received a much more in depth vetting. We had people who received a "need to know" clearance that were really raked across the coals. Since the president will know our total defense plans plus many, many secrets I am sure they are 100% sure he is who he says he is.
     
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    The argument he has gotten this far so that proves his BC is real is no evidence at all.
     
  18. poncho

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    And all the Bush supporters were 100% sure he was a conservative too. Only after it was too late did we find out he was actually a liberal Trotskyite in conservative republicon clothing. The FBI can be easily manipulated too. The OKC bombing and pre 9/11 terrorist investigations attest to that. If the global transnational elite want something covered up or forgotten it is. If they want something to come out and be controversial it comes out.

    Yeah right and the Nigerian yellowcake document was real too until it was proven a crude fake after we invaded another country. We spent a couple hundred billion dollars and 4,000 + lives in part because of that little oopsie so far.
     
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  19. targus

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    I have no doubt that this is done for those in the military.

    I am not so sure that this would be done for a private citizen/politician.

    If that were so I am guessing that we would have heard some complaints somewhere from someone about the violation of privacy rights.
     
  20. LeBuick

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    I give, it sounds like there is no satisfying this issue short of him bringing this document to court. Not that it matters because he won't get the vote of anyone wanting him to produce this document either way.

    I say he shouldn't be pushed into presenting the document to a state court because he is running for National office. You and I know he won't present it short of the supreme court request and I applaud him for that. If he surrenders to this request there will be many more behind it. I will rest my defense and move on to better grounds.

    I wonder what in this states constitution gives this judge the power to request this document since it is only to have his name on the ballot. If I had any more cares about this I would investigate that angle.
     
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