Obama Confirms Relationship With Marxist Mentor

Um.. read what I wrote, and notice how I tied this into Mr. Corsi.
I thought that was obvious.

Regards,
BiR

 

No it is a red herring. It is irrelivent. It does not address the issue at hand, that BHO was admittedly mentored by a member of the Communist Party. Please address the issue and not attack people that are two or three steps removed from the discussion.

Does it concern you that BHO was admittedly mentored by a member of the Communist Party?

 

Funny. :laugh:

All your sources in defense of media matters ar , of course, media matters.

So now you contend Hillary was lying.

Just how far will you go to defend an organization that is so blatantly anti- conservative and anti Republican as a valid source of anything but democrat propaganda?

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CAP helped launch Media Matters for America, a 501(c)(03) public charity better known for its Web site MediaMatters.org, which opened for business on May 3, 2004. Inasmuch as Media Matters aspires to serve as a media watchdog, monitoring “rightwing” journalists for errors and ethical violations, it is odd, to say the least, that David Brock has been appointed its President and CEO. Brock is a former conservative journalist who defected to the Left amidst an outpouring of dramatic public apologies and confessions that he had built his career on lies, writing political hit pieces filled with flimsy evidence and outright fabrications. Even so, whatever Brock lacks in credibility, he more than makes up for in the quality of his schmoozing. Brock told The New York Times that he conferred with Senator Hillary Clinton, Senator Tom Daschle and former Vice President Al Gore before launching his Web site.[7]

The New York Times, which generously provided a 1,041-word feature article to announce Brock’s grand opening, reports that, “Mr. Brock's project was developed with help from the newly formed Center for American Progress…. [CAP president John] Podesta has loaned office space in the past to Mr. Brock and introduced him to potential donors.” Brock received $2 million for the start-up. His donors include friend-of-Hillary Susie Tompkins Buell, co-founder of the fashion company Esprit; former cable TV mogul Leo Hindery Jr.; and San Francisco philanthropist James C. Hormel, an enthusiastic promoter of the “gay lifestyle” whom Clinton appointed ambassador to Luxembourg in the 1990s.[8]

In its short life, Media Matters has already acquired a reputation for zombie-like partisanship and reckless disregard for the truth. Brock and his team seem to sleepwalk through their work, rubberstamping, with mind-numbing monotony, virtually every conservative utterance that finds its way into major media as a “lie,” a “smear,” a “slander,” or a factual “error.” "




But Bible Boy is correct. It is your sole purpose to derail the thread with your red herrings, never addressing the subject of the thread..

 

Back on track.

There is absolutely no question about Obama's political roots and his tutelage by a well known communist.

 

I was making the point that whatever it is that Revm is doing or not doing has nothing to do with the topic of this debate thread. I was speaking as a BB Moderator trying to keep this thread on topic. Admittedly, I am not a mod in this forum, but would you rather have me hit the "report bad post" on your post and complain to the mods of this forum that you made a personal attack against a fellow BB user and are driving this thread off topic?

There is a world of difference between being a co-worker/friend to a communist party member and being an impressionable young man sitting at the feet of a radical communist party member drinking in his political teachings.

 

Compared to the principles of our Founding Fathers, both Senator McCain and Senator Obama would perhaps be considered communists, or at least socialists.

 

It is not a red herring: it is simply a fact that when taken as a whole indicates a blatant agenda. Corsi has a track record of producing politically-motivated attack pieces, and so does O'Neill, who was his co-author on the attack piece on John Kerry. Again, a great deal can be ascertained by the company you keep.

No, it doesn't - why should it?

Did you know that several people on the right are former Marxists? For example:
David Horowitz is a former Marxist whose parents were members of the Communist Party.
In his book The Triumph of Politics [a great book, if you haven't read it], former OMB Director (for former President Reagan) David Stockman talks about his days of Marxism and what he refers to as America hating.
Of course, Michael (Weiner) Savage used to hang out with Allen Ginsberg and several other Beat poets. If you ever read any of their works in college, you know that they could hardly be considered conservatives.
Irving Kristol, considered by many to be the father of Neoconservatism, used to be a Trotskyite.
Jean Kirkpatrick used to be a member of the Young People's Socialist League, and her principal advisor at Columbia University was Franz Leopold Neumann.

Did Corsi write books about these people and their pasts?

The question is whether or not Obama is touting Marxist ideals in the present. I have yet to see anyone provide evidence of that.

Regards,
BiR

 

The New York Times reported, “Several of the book’s accusations, in fact, are unsubstantiated, misleading orinaccurate.” [New York Times, 8/13/08]

Politico: “Outrageous Assertions and Fringe Theories…Have Hurt His Credibility on the Right as Well.”
“[H]is outrageous assertions and fringe theories — which include allegations that President Bush worked to eliminate the borders with Mexico and Canada and the assertion that Kerry is a Communist — have hurt his credibility on the right, as well. … On the blog FreeRepublic.com, Corsi wrote that pedophilia ‘is OK with the Pope as long as it isn’t reported by the liberal press,’ that ‘RAGHEADS are Boy-Bumpers as clearly as they are Women-Haters.’” [Politico, 8/13/08]

Washington Post: Book “Lacks Major Revelations… Parts Of The Book Have Also Been Disproved By The Mainstream Media.” “Corsi’s ‘The Obama Nation’ lacks major revelations and has been dismissed by Obama’s campaign as a series of lies from a serial liar. Parts of the book have also been disproved by the
mainstream media. In 2004, Corsi co-wrote ‘Unfit for Command,’ in which Swift boat veterans criticized Sen. John F. Kerry’s Vietnam War record. That book was also widely disproved…Nevertheless, Corsi’s book about Obama will debut as a No. 1 New York Times bestseller.” [Washington Post, 8/14/08]

Los Angeles Times: “Being No. 1 Doesn’t Necessarily Mean Being Accurate.” The Los Angeles Times reported, “The book lashes out at Barack Obama and alleges, among other things, that the politician has a secret radical Islamic agenda. But being No. 1 doesn’t necessarily mean being accurate. Obama is a Christian.” [Los
Angeles Times, 8/12/08]

New Republic: “Frequently Fictitious” Book From “Propagandist And Renowned Liar.” “From today’s NYT piece on the vile and frequently fictitious anti-Obama book just released by swift-boat propagandist and renowned liar Jerome Corsi…” [New Republic, 8/13/08]

Martin: Corsi’s Book “Regardless Of Accuracy, Is What Many On The Right Want To Believe About Obama.” Jonathan Martin wrote, “But Corsi delved into the drug-and-Muslim fever swamps, which, regardless of accuracy, is what many on the right want to believe about Obama.” [Politico, 8/13/08]

 

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Anyone with the gift of discernment knows that I was demonstrating that they will take everyone to task, even the so-called Liberal media.

Again, you are avoiding my direct challenge to you - here it is again:

I guess it was harder than you thought.

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I didn't say anything about Hillary lying. Let me say that again because you seemingly have difficulty processing facts: I didn't say anything about Hillary lying. In typical fashion, you are being intellectually dishonest in your blatant misrepresentation of what I wrote. It's right there in post #19.

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You wrote this before, and you were wrong. You are still wrong. You can even write it again, and you will still be wrong.

How ironic that you would talk about "propaganda," and continually spew the "democrat" phrase ad nauseum, just like Rush Limbaugh. Oh, I am sure that this is merely coincidental.

BTW, how fortuitous that you would quote David Horowitz, of all people!! If it bothers you that Obama had a relationship with a Marxist, then it must REALLY bother you that Horowitz was raised by Communists.

Again, you have difficulty citing your sources, and I certainly hope that it wasn't deliberate on your part. But you DO have a problem giving your sources - and always have.

:tonofbricks:
OOPS.....

 

:laugh: :laugh:
I can't believe you posted this again!
Let's recap: this is the web page for the COMMUNIST PARTY.
There is difference between Socialism and Communism.
Amazing that you still don't have even a basic understanding of either term.

 

I sure did. I have read more than one book/article on this.

As for Kerry, he did:
http://news.bostonherald.com/news/national/politics/general/view.bg?articleid=1045198

Of course, Pickens wants to dictate terms.

 

What question?
You cannot even discern between socialism and communism, yet you expect me to answer a question that clearly is nonsensical? That you would post this yet again simply shows that you are in over your head, revmitchell. Perhaps you could do a little research and get back to me when you know the difference.

 

Yes, I know. You just kinda skipped over it, so I had to ask. Since you didn't seem to understand it was a question, I'll put it another way.

Do you believe Hillary was lying when she said

"We are certainly better prepared and more focused on, you know, taking our arguments, and making them effective, and disseminating them widely, and really putting together a network, uh, in the blogosphere, in a lot of the new progressive infrastructure, institutions that I helped to start and support like Media Matters and Center for American Progress. "

Hillary Clinton

That's a question.
Would you care to answer?

 

One more time, revmitchell: you need to learn the differences between socialism and communism. What exactly is preventing you from doing this? It's a simple concept.

 

Horowitz, an admitted former communist, saw the light.

Obama denied his association with his communust mentor until he had no choice but admit it.

It doesn't seem he has seen the light just yet and wants to keep the rest of us in the dark about his association with a leading communist.

Hmmmm.....

It seems at this time that Horowitz is the better man.

 

<personal attack deleted - LE>?
I didn't skip over it at all, and even the most casual observer knows this to be true.

Let's look at this again. Here is what I said in post 19:

Here is what you wrote in post 23:

<personal attack deleted - LE> I never wrote anything about whether or not Hillary is lying. Let me say that again for you: I never wrote anything about whether or not Hillary is lying. "Lying" was YOUR word, carpro.

Now you offer this:

One more time: I never wrote anything about whether or not Hillary is lying. I didn't skip over it, as I am not the one who used the word. It was you, carpro.
But to answer your question: I don't know if she is or not.

Now, since I answered YOUR question about a word I never wrote, perhaps you could exhibit some integrity and respond to my direct challenge to you.