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Obama Explains Small Town America

Discussion in 'Political Debate & Discussion' started by carpro, Apr 11, 2008.

  1. carpro

    carpro Well-Known Member
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    "You go into these small towns in Pennsylvania and, like a lot of small towns in the Midwest, the jobs have been gone now for 25 years and nothing's replaced them," Obama said. "And they fell through the Clinton Administration, and the Bush Administration, and each successive administration has said that somehow these communities are gonna regenerate and they have not. And it's not surprising then they get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren't like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations."
     
  2. KenH

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    Link, please.
     
  3. Bro. Curtis

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    It took me about 10 seconds to find several links attributing these words to Obama. Wassa matter, now that you want free health care, you want people to do yer research for you, too ?

    Lazy, lazy, lazy.
     
  4. Magnetic Poles

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    What's the problem with the statement? Sounds about right.
     
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    Those poor, dumb, disillusioned, and frustrated Americans. They are conservative because they are desperate. Now we are starting to see the contempt that Obama really has for most Americans and evidently others too.
     
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    To you...it should.
     
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    You know for a "constitutional laywer" he sure sounds as though he doesn't understand it. Guns and religion are america! I think he's confusing a "manifesto" with the constitution myself.

    He even found space in those few words to imply that if you are one of the frustrated one's you're a "conspiracy theorist" or somehow disfunctional. He's got that establishment propaganda right down pat. Oh yeah! He's in like Flin with the upper crust!

    And, yer man just admitted he's for open borders too Ken. :thumbs:

    And to think y'all might put my life into this guys hands or worse. Thanks alot for nothin.
     
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    Yea that sounds right. If the government just gave me a better job I would not need the security of my God and my firearms. If I could just learn to trust the government more and have faith in them I would not need all this religion. I think I am going to say a prayer to Obama right now.
     
  9. Bro. Curtis

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    More Oprah.

    It just occurred to me, Obama likes to throw blame around, I suspect we're going to see four years of him blaming Bush for not being able to get anything done.

    We know he's a socialist. We have evidence of his racism. Now he's looking down on people who trust God.

    And bitter ? BITTER ? Hasn't he heard his Dr. Hatewhitey preacher ? Now THERE'S a bitter dude.

    Sheesh !!!!

    I know his apologists aren't going to mind, even to the point of blaming us, but I'm glad there are a few clear-eyed rational people, who can see right thru this stuff.

    Funny stuff, kids.
     
  10. KenH

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    I agree, MP. However, we can't expect the radical right to understand logical thinking as the radical right relies on feelings - mainly feelings of disdain toward anyone who disagrees with their viewpoints.
     
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    Of course, the politicians propose that more government is the answer to all our problems whether we'd agree they're problems or not and, regretably, a lot of people believe them and actually expect they'll get something for nothing.

    A few generations again when the mines played out or when the forests were cut out the little communities that grew up around those industries dried up and the people moved on to better things somewhere else where there was opportunity waiting. They didn't wait around for the government to create a new endeavor for them. America doesn't need the worry about regenerating every town that dries up through more taxes and programs. The people may have to pack up, go some where else, and learn how to do something different.
     
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    What a bunch of hooey. Logical folks would never support this hateful bigot.
     
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    Logical thinking? I don't think we can call a man's opinion logical thinking. He may be right or wrong depending on the person but for him to say every small town resident is this way is just more of what we don't need in this country - placing everyone in a category whether they belong there or not. To say people want immigration reform because they are bitter is ridiculous. To say that people want guns and/or God because they lost their jobs and have nothing else in their lives is rather foolish and narrow-minded. I don't doubt that some feel this way. But to try to broad-brush folks like this is just lunacy.
     
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    Let me see if I understand this: The people who don't have jobs, and therefore can't buy guns, buy guns as a way to explain their frustration.

    Very logical.
     
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    Obama says: "Our challenge is to get people persuaded that we can make progress when there's not evidence of that in their daily lives."

    I can translate that to mean his goal is to con the people into believing the government can make things okay for them when everyone senses from generations of past experience that they can not and will not. Yet it still buys votes!

    Hey, Obama, I like my guns, love my church, get along just fine with my neighbors, but am frustrated by the continued intrusion of government into my daily life and the taking of my earnings to fund more hopeless programs.
     
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    Don't fall for the spin that the radical right is attempting to place on these comments, Tom. Resist these purveyors of the politics of personal destruction!
     
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    The only hate I see here is that coming from those bent on personal character assassination and using terms like bigot.
     
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    "That's what people understand about politics these days: the game is fixed. It's not working for ordinary Americans. When I go around and talk to people, there is frustration, and there is anger, and there is bitterness. And what's worse is when people are expressing their anger, and politicians try to say, what are you angry about?" - Senator Obama


    "Here's what's rich. Sen. Clinton says, I don't think people are bitter in Pennsylvania. I think Barack's being condescending. John McCain says, he's obviously out of touch with people. Out of touch? John McCain, it took him three tries to figure out the home foreclosure crisis was a problem and to come up with a plan for it, and he's saying I'm out of touch? Sen. Clinton voted for a credit card sponsored bankruptcy bill that made it harder for people to get out of debt, after taking money from the financial services companies, and she says I'm out of touch?"

    "No, I'm in touch. I know exactly what's going on. I know what's going on in Pennsylvania, I know what's going in Indiana, I know what's going in Illinois. People are fed up. They're angry and they're frustrated and they're bitter, and they want to see a change in Washington, and that's why I'm running for president of the United States of America." - Senator Obama

    - http://blog.washingtonpost.com/the-trail/2008/04/11/obama_expands_on_bitter_pennsy.html

    Keep up speaking for middle-class and working-class Americans, Senator Obama. :thumbs:

    Don't let those who want to keep the status quo in place for the rich and the big corporations get you down. It's time we had a president for someone other than the rich and the big corporations.
     
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    ^^^^^
    Sounding more, and more like a pot calling a kettle black.
     
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