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Obama Fires Back on Patriotism Attacks

Discussion in 'Political Debate & Discussion' started by KenH, Feb 24, 2008.

  1. KenH

    KenH Well-Known Member

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    It's a shame that the Republicans seemingly can no longer run a positive campaign based on issues, hope, and optimism. Instead all they seem to do is engage in character assassination and fearmongering.

    http://abcnews.go.com/print?id=4336530
     
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    Blast that dastardly Republican rag, Time Magazine, for publishing that blasted picture!

    Doggone! Why can't that Republican monster, Michelle Obama, watch her runaway mouth!!


    Oh what to do! Oh what to do? :BangHead:
     
  3. KenH

    KenH Well-Known Member

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    Oh, yeah, carpro, I am sure that the Republicans will run an issues oriented campaign in the general election. :rolleyes:
     
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    carpro Well-Known Member
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    I'm just as sure the democrats will , too.

    The Obama campaign has already played the "race card" on Hillary, of all people. That's the type of campaign we can expect from democrats.
     
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    Your continued turn from Libertarian to Liberal Democrat is well on its way I see.

    I forgot that the Democrats run such clean, attack-free, issue oriented campaigns. :rolleyes:
     
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    The fragrance of the Obama Campaign

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    Why thats anti-american...

    Everyone knows I can raise myself higher if I step on my brothers head... :smilewinkgrin:
     
  8. KenH

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    You got that backward. It was the Clinton campaign that played the race card in South Carolina against Senator Obama.
     
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    Yes, I think that it is coming along nicely. :) It kind of reminds me of sometime around 1990 when I became a fan of Governor Wilder of Virginia. If he had been a successful presidential candidate I might very well have supported him for president.
     
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    You are simply mistaken.

    Obama's bunch accused the Clinton's of racist remarks for some rather innocuous and true statements.

    Apparently, your idea of playing the "race card" is slipping up in the political correctness department. My idea of playing the "race card" is accusing another of a racist remark for that innocent statement.

    Mine is correct.
     
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    Dunno about the race card, but Bill injected race. Since Bill appeared on the scene, Hillary has taken massive blows that may prove fatal. If Hillary loses, will Obama or Bill be the one who defeated her?
     
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    I guess Carpro is not so correct as he thinks.
     
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    Bill is no help, but it was Hillary's remark:

    "I would point to the fact that Dr. King's dream began to be realized when President Lyndon Johnson passed the Civil Rights Act of 1964, when he was able to get through Congress something that President Kennedy was hopeful to do, the president before had not even tried, but it took a president to get it done. "

    that first drew fire from the Obama campaign as a racist statement.

    She later said:

    “I regret the way that this matter has been used,” Clinton told reporters. “The comments about it are baseless and divisive. I was personally offended at the approach taken that was not only misleading but unnecessarily hurtful.”

    She suggested reporters consider the sources of the criticism, much of which has come from the black community.

    “I think it clearly came from Senator Obama’s campaign and I don’t think it’s the kind of debate we should be having in our campaign,” she said.
     
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    When asked about Obama's momentum after SC (I don't remember the quote perfectly), Bill Clinton said something like, "You know, Jesse Jackson won South Carolina."

    That sounds patronizing at best and racist at worst.
     
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    Sounds like a statement of fact to someone that's not interested in playing the race card.
     
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    You can't get the tone from the written word. The way he said it didn't come across as a statement of fact.
     
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    Good point.

    But judgement of tone is also subjective.
     
  18. StefanM

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    I'll grant that. It may not have been a racial comment, but it was at least patronizing. It doesn't come across well.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qqd2dfjl2pw

    It sounds like he made the comment then tried to cover his tracks with the "good campaign" statements.
     
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    His implication was, of course, that Obama won S. Carolina because he is black and the black vote turnout was enormous.

    This is true. I would have preferred he just say so.

    But that's not allowed in today's political world.

    And that's the shame of it.
     
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