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Obama Plays the Race Card

Discussion in 'Political Debate & Discussion' started by OldRegular, Aug 14, 2012.

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  1. Revmitchell

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    There is no doubt that, unlike Romney, Obama is waging a campaign of hate and division and has no problem throwing out the race card. But in this instance and considering the context as a whole I do not see it here.
     
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    What I do believe though is that had Ryan said that, offense from the liberals would be feigned from the highest hills.
     
    #22 Revmitchell, Aug 15, 2012
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    Just before the line he talked about people being 'chained to Wall Street'
     
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    You are correct targus and the nay sayers are wrong. Biden made these remarks in Danville, Virginia the last Capital of the Confederate States of America. Danville is split equally along racial lines 50/50!

    In making his remarks about "being back in chains" Biden resorted to that good old Southern expression "y' all" .

    The history of the democrats in recent years has been one of playing the "race card". It is a given that they will use it against Republicans but in 2008 they used it against Bill and Hillary, starting here in South Carolina!

    Biden is supposedly "gaffe" prone but are people cutting him too much slack. I believe so. This man may be a "motor mouth" but he is not beyond stupid. He knew exactly what he was saying. His remarks were endorsed by the Obama Campaign so to write it off as a gaffe is niave! Folks must understand that his remarks were for the blacks in his audience, not white people! When democrats play the "race card" it is generally an appeal to their black constituents!
     
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    I hate to say this but you "nay sayers" are being naive. Well, not really! I doubt that you have any concept of the way many blacks obsess about the history of slavery!
     
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    Why? :confused:
     
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    I have no idea as to why. Only you can answer that!
     
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    Did you read the bolded part? I am asking why you doubt that.
     
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    The line before that was about "unshackling Wall Street" not people being "chained to Wall Street".

    If Biden was talking about "people being chained to Wall Street...

    When were people previously chained to Wall Street...

    How were people chained to Wall Street...

    When were those chains removed?

    All of which is necessary for Biden's words to mean what you think they do.

    BTW - was Biden using a teleprompter?
     
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    What is the difference?
     
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    Apologies for the paraphrase
     
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    Biden's comment was a response to Republican comments made almost exactly in the same manner:
    Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/201...gn-division-and-anger-and-hate/#ixzz23dTmEQ8w
     
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    I don't follow your rationale. Romney and others were talking about unshackling Wall Street as the result of Dodd Franks. Only a democrat would twist that into: "They're gonna put y'all back in chains." to an audience composed in large part by blacks!

    There was no attempt by Biden to be subtle in playing the race card in this instance; it was blatant. I am surprised at the apologists for Biden!
     
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    That's right, and Biden was playing off of that.

    Ok don't pull a Zaac here. No one is an apologist for Biden. I do not want him there any less than you or anyone else. But we need to treat people with fairness and not overreact to everything they say. it is just not necessary to show why they do not need to be in office. It was not blatant or even in existence.
     
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    I am not pulling a Zaac here. Just because you cannot see race baiting in Biden's remarks does not mean that it is not there! There is simply no rationale for Biden, or anyone else, to move from unshackling something or someone to putting blacks back in chains other than that he was race baiting! And that is the truth.
     
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    Someone still needs to explain what "chains" Biden was talking about then.

    What "chains" had been removed from people that the Republicans want to put back on those same people?

    It's not enough to say that Biden wasn't making a racist charge.

    What was he saying then?
     
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    shackles and chains.....same thing
     
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    You are getting there. Romney was talking about removing shackles. Biden was talking about putting chains back on! Putting chains on to an audience composed of a large number of blacks whose fore-bearers were enslaved is race baiting. democrats are expert at this! It is sad that you and C4K want to question the validity of the thread because you are unable to see this. He is in Ireland, you are in New Mexico, I am in South Carolina!
     
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    I am sorry but the audience does not make the context automatically racist. Again I want Obama gone and the both of them do use race often. Just not in this case.
     
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    I understand what "shackling Wall Street" means.

    It is referring to government regulations.

    I don't understand what Biden means though when he says "put the chains back on" people.

    What are the "chains" that he is referring to?

    When where those "chains" previously on someone?

    When and how were they removed?

    How will they be put back on?

    What is Biden even talking about?
     
    #40 targus, Aug 15, 2012
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