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Obama State Department: Delusional

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  1. carpro

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    http://www.politico.com/story/2015/12/state-department-claims-peace-syria-2015-win-217168


    State Dept. counts 'bringing peace' to Syria as a 2015 win


    The State Department is counting "bringing peace" to Syria as one of its wins in 2015.
    A boastful recap of the State Department’s accomplishments, written by spokesman John Kirby, includes the bold subheadline of "Bringing Peace, Security to Syria" above a more modest entry talking about U.S. aid for those affected by the country's turmoil and the U.S. push for a political transition from President Bashar Assad.
     
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    Obama Scrambles To Create "New ISIS Narrative" After Putin Embarrasses Washington

    One of the most amusing things about Russia’s headlong plunge into Syria’s five-year conflict is the extent to which it effectively represented Moscow calling time on Washington’s strategy of seeking to bring about regime change in the Mid-East by intentionally destabilizing otherwise strong (if not always benign) governments.

    Until September 30 - which is the day a three star Russian general strolled into the US embassy in Baghdad and informed the staff that airstrikes in Syria begin “in one hour” - Washington, Riyadh, Ankara, and Doha seemed perfectly content to simply wait around for one group of rebels or another to finally succeed in taking Damascus. In the meantime, the US embarked on what one might call a “containment” strategy as it related to ISIS - the idea, basically, was to keep Frankenstein confined to the lab, but not to hit the monster hard enough to render it ineffectual in the fight to destabilize the Assad government.

    Once Assad fell, the US would march in and “liberate” the country before promptly installing a puppet government - with the help of the Saudis of course.

    All of that changed when the Russians arrived in Latakia.

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    “The new working group will look at how best to articulate what it is we're trying to do ... and do it in a concise easy to understand way," he adds.

    Yes, the US wants to “articulate what it is they’re trying to do,” because as it stands, it’s Vladimir Putin, Sergei Lavrov, and Maria Zakharova that are doing the articulating when it comes to explaining what Washington is up to in Syria. The US desperately needs to recapture the narrative or else end up like Turkey, which is now widely understood to be what amounts to Islamic State’s number one state sponsor, all thanks to Moscow’s PR blitz in the wake of Erdogan’s move to shoot down a Russian Su-24 last month.



    Continue . . . http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-...-narrative-after-putin-embarrasses-washington
     
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    Obama is not trying to deal with reality he is trying to create it.
     
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    I don't see how the Democrats can imagine Syria as any sort of victory after San Bernardino. We are even up against Cubans in Syria manning tanks and fighting against us.

    Some are claiming that Millennials favor putting troops into Syria to check ISIS. It seems as if Hillary will have to clean up the Democrat mess if she is elected. Good show that she is not afraid to come under fire, as she showed by bravely accepting flowers from a child in Bosnia in spite of incoming gunfire that would have caused De Gaulle to turn his head at least.
     
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    http://www.cnsnews.com/commentary/ben-shapiro/obama-its-not-delusion-its-purpose


    For Obama, It's Not Delusion, It's Purpose


    Good news, America: the Obama administration has achieved peace in Syria. That's according to John Kirby, the Assistant Secretary of State for the Bureau of Public Affairs and spokesperson at the US State Department, who issued a blog post filled with five-word summations of 2015. Here's their summation of the Syrian crisis: "Bringing Peace, Security to Syria."

    So the hundreds of thousands dead, the millions of refugees, the rise of ISIS, the enshrinement of dictator Bashar Assad — none of it ever happened. According to the State Department, everything's going swimmingly.

    More good news: the Obama administration has also defeated terrorism: "Winning Fight Against Violent Extremists." Oddly, more Americans now say that America is losing the war on terrorism than at any time since 9/11; 74 percent of Americans say they are dissatisfied with how the war on terror is progressing.

    But the news gets even better: the State Department proclaims that it has achieved Iran's disarmament: "Iran Peaceful Nuclear Program Ensured." Well, there is that whole awkward Iran continuing to develop whatever it wants while funding terrorism across the world with money freed up by the United States and its allies. But really, we've stopped the mullahs dead in their tracks.

    There are only two possible rationales for this sort of disconnect with reality: first, the Obama administration knows they're full of it, but they keep on gritting their teeth and pushing the misinformation; second, they seriously believe that they are achieving magnificent results. In other words, they're either cynical or delusional.

    My money's on delusional.
     
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    They are "bringing" something to Syria. Not sure if peace will result, but it's probably the hoped for result of the US and the international coalition.

    Grammatically, there's nothing wrong with saying "bringing". I would question "brought" but "bringing" could be viewed as accurate dependent upon to whom you talk.
     
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    Obozo supports ISIS. That is reality.
     
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