OBAMA: The Selling of the President, and Our Nation??

Yes.:thumbs:

 

Amen! And thank you Lord for sending us this righteous dude too! :thumbs:

 

Righteous Dude, I'm glad you're back. :thumbs:

 

Good stuff. America IS getting ready to follow the Antichrist right to hell. It isn't Obama, but it's a big step.

 

Well of course. That would explain everything! Including this sore toe of mine.

Such a sweeping change would require many Constitutional Amendments, and the support of 34 state legislatures to happen.

 

There won't be any constitutional amendments. It will be done by executive fiat, martial law and an Orwellian big brother police state. No I'm not looking into the future. I'm just reading the news, legislation and policy papers. We won't be given a choice. We weren't given a choice when Bush signed the SPP with the heads of Canada and Mexico. They just did it. And congress plays dumb. They've all been bought or compromised to the point now where they'll go along with anything for perks or to keep their dirty little secrets secret.

The process is actually quite well advanced. Almost if not all of the enabling laws are now in place for a martial law takeover. Our police have been militarized. Our military is being merged with Canada and Mexico. (usnorthcom). Don't believe it? Go to their website they brag about it. We no longer have habeas corpus or posse comitatus no first or fourth or fifth amendment protections. We kidnap and torture people. We've already witnessed the state moving to confiscate private arms in NOLA. Nobdoy made a fuss about it. Mercenaries and foreign soldiers patrolling U.S. streets.

"It's all good they're here to help"

This isn't just the USA anymore. This is libertie's last stand against a global tyranny of the most oppresive kind. And to those out there who want to pretend everything is okie dokie. That's fine just don't run crying to those of us who stood our ground while we could without you.

The state is all coiled and ready for action now.

 

I've said for several years now that the only difference between the Ds & the Rs is the rapidity with which our nation is destroyed.

The Rs will be a bit slower and nicer compared to the Ds - otherwise same end result!!!!

The ONLY hope for this nation is for God to show extraordinary mercy to us, and there certainly is no reason for that to happen save for His own pure pleasure; nothing we've done makes us deserving fer sure.

 

No matter how bad things here could get, I can see no reason why people would think that joining with Mexico would solve our problems, or cause dancing in the street.

Yes, RD, I have read articles such as you link to and, with all due respect, they are not at all convincing. The CFR paper was an academic policy paper, written by a non-government entity. CSIS and the Hudson Institute aren't the US government.

IMHO, America is not mentioned in prophesy because we are the offspring of other nations that are mentioned. I won't get into that much because I'm not well-versed in Ezekiel or Daniel.

At any rate, I'll meet you back here in 25 years, when there is no North American Union, and we can all celebrate in our weelchairs or walkers

 

There's that ole establihment consensus again. I was saying the economy was going to flop four years ago, the consensus people are just now catching up.
Always before it was the econmy is great! Great! Great!

I've been warning of the North American Union for over two years now so I don't expect the consensus people to catch up for another couple years. And even then they'll think everything is normal.

Seems the NWO is having difficulties passing off their trojan (SPP) horse on us. So now they're thinking of ways to repackage it and sell it to us under a different name.

Saving the North American Security and Prosperity Partnership: The Case for a North American Standards and Regulatory Area

36 pages in PDF.

They sure like integration.

 

All of these come after 7 years of a disastrous reign by GW Bush. But I have the feeling that you believe that these calamities were brought on by someone or something else. Who do you think is pulling the strings? I for one firmly believe that 9/11 was not planned and carried out by those we blame for it. In that I guess we share belief in different conspiracy theories.

 

It's not just Obama that dreams of a new world order. John McCain not only dreams about it but openly admits it. Proudly even as a patriotic American.


So Obama has all the starry eyed ones following him from poverty and racism to a utopian NWO and McCain will lead all the star spangled banner eyed ones from a certain destruction at the hands of a dangerous shadowy enemy to a heroic secure and harmonious "league of democracies".

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Two paths down the exact same globalist road. Suppose we can write it off as coincidence?

 

Bump bump bumperooni.

 

Do you remember metrification?

 

Why? Think I don't? C'mon I'm not so old yet I'd forget something like that.

What was it? Third or fourth grade maybe later anyway long time ago. Didn't care for it then either. Sixteenths Rule!

 

Nope, I figured you'd remember.

I also take note of today's on-going trend to apply international standards (ISO) instead of good old American standards (ANSI) to all manner of work even when it's not going to be shipped to Europe.

 

They aren't just applying international standards now they're "harmonizing interdependency" fluffy sounding euphemisms for takeover obviously from deep within the collective mind of socialism.

Don't tell me you go along with all this merging Big D.

I'll have a hard time believing it if you do.:smilewinkgrin:

Seriously even when I was a kid I knew there was something fundamentally wrong with it.

Have you read this "report" yet? 44 pages in PDF

By Daniel Taylor
"This is how we will create a North American consciousness and a true North American Community. It will be forged in the heat of conflict, not through a rational discussion, as painful as that may be. It really cannot happen any other way." - Bruce Stokes, CFR Senior Fellow, speaking at the "Toward a North American Community?" conference, June 11, 2002


In reading a little noticed June 11, 2002 document (link) detailing a conference held by the Woodrow Wilson International Center for Scholars, shocking revelations are made regarding the elite's plans to create a North American Union between Canada, Mexico, and the United States of America.


The "Toward a North American Community?" conference focused on the social and ideological aspects of the creation of a "North American Community", and prescribes ways to deal with nationalism and a belief in the sovereignty of ones own country; both obstacles to their plans. A "North American Consciousness" - an outlook absent of traditional beliefs in sovereignty, replaced by an international view favorable to globalism - is needed, the panelists conclude, that would support the "... economic, political, and social integration..." of Canada, Mexico, and the United States.


The title "Toward a North American Community" may sound familiar to some. This was the title that Robert Pastor, one of the main proponents of a North American Community, gave to his book that was published just a year before the Woodrow Wilson conference.
The "Toward a North American Community?" conference is described in the document,


"This conference was a departure from many recent events on North America. Instead of looking exclusively at trade and investment, the panelists were asked to focus on relationships in North America and to examine identity, sovereignty, and political practices in the United States, Mexico, and Canada. Further economic, political, and social integration will depend on how citizens of the three countries define their national identities and the degree to which they are willing to cede some of their countries’ sovereignty to a larger entity."


The document continues, reiterating the same theme from above, FULL ARTICLE...Here.

 

Obama would fit right in but so would any other candidate. I don't see the NWO or New Economic Order, International community or whatever as a two party system it's a corporate borg mad with the power and glory of an international monopoly and not the board game. Left and right doesn't mean anything to them. They're beyond all that.

Doesn't matter which "side" wins they own all the horses in the race. The horses all use the same global integration speech. Read em. Some spin it left some spin it right but it all comes down to global integration is heaven and independent states are the other place. Independent states are rogues and full of evil terrorists who want to destroy global harmony and peace and must be brought under control and assimilated into the collective or stamped out. Liberty and freedom and just causes have nothing to do with it.

That's the foreign policy of the -> NWO <- most folks around here bouts just call it "our foreign policy", some love it some don't but they've all reached consensus now that's it's our foreign policy.

It's our tax dollars that pays for it all too and that's a fact. No consensus needed.

George Bush plan 9/11? No way! Bush is just the face on the label.