Obama: Will discard Bush Exec. Orders He deems *unconstitional*

Perhaps, but not nearly so unhappy as with Obama.

 

At least McCain has enough sense to pretend to be one of "us".

 

What's been far scarier is having GW Bush as President for the last 7 1/2 years. Many of his executive orders were flagrant if not unconstitutional. I hope that whoever wins the election will remove every trace of the worst president in American history.

 

That would be Bill Clinton.

AJ

 

The rapture has got to be close -- I am in total agreement with Poncho on this one!:thumbs::laugh:

Sure there will be pockets that resist, but the overwhelming majority of the citizens ( just observe the fanatical support of BHO on this board of folk who should have some similance of discernment) will fall all over themselves to be a part of his adoring entourage.

support of BHO on this board

 

THE POINT SHOULD BE that the US is governed by secret laws and orders, NOT the Constitution.

 

I thought this was standard to at minimum ammend or not overturn them... In fact, presidents ammend their own orders as time go by. Bush had one to create a fund to defend Iran but I believe he overturned it himself.

If you look at Bush' executive orders you will see there is nothing to worry about.

http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/orders/

 

Hardly. James Buchannan, probably.

 

Since this is a "What if" thread as proposed in the OP....

What if President Clinton use executive orders to declare a feminist state? She might be Nora Clavicle in disguise.

Compelling story here


On topic, BTW, IMHO, this is about as likely as President Obama uses his executive power to legalise all abortions or declaring same s*x marriage legal.

Thank you LE for talking the Muslin America topic out of the conversation.

 

Nonsense poncho. People are not in a frenzy about possible terror attacks here, and are complaining about what few security procedures they have to endure (long lines at the airport). There is no call for a more authoritarian government. There are no riots in the streets. GI's are not about to open fire on any group of peaceful protestors. Worldwide, terrorist attacks are down 40% from seven years ago. And we are shortly going to have another peaceful change of administration.

 

You are 100% correct - it is still a good country.

 

Darn right. People just get carried away on these boards.

 

Ain't it the truth! Even in the contested results of 2000, there were no tanks in the streets, no bloodlettting, and we had a peaceful transition to a new government.

 

That is so MP. Not even a bloody nose! Well maybe a few.

 

Really?

Yeah but for the most part people are accepting a big brother authoritarian government. You seem to be okay with it.

Not from the people at this time anyway. The state however is always ready and willing to grab more power. It's a historical fact and one of the main reasons this nation was founded on the principles it was.

If there were would they be given any airtime?

We can be thankfull for that but the state has been training foreign troops on American soil to do the dirty work for a long time now. You should really keep up with this stuff NS. It's kind of a drag trying to have a debate with a half educated opponent. No offense meant mind you.

Look back to NOLA after Katrina. Foreign troops and mercenaries on American soil. Confiscation of peaceful citizens firearms. FEMA cutting communication lines and holding up needed goods and supplies from reaching the people. It goes on. Me thinks y'all forget these "little things" to quickly.

This is a good thing but how does it prove it that I am wrong about people rallying behind a man on a white horse? This is a given response proven over and over when's the last time you cracked open a real history book? National and international leaders know this and openly admit it. Why is it only the "common" people that deny it?

Do I need to post quotes from the horse's mouths yet again?

 

Absolutely. The MSM loves nothing better than anti-Bush or anti-war demonstrations.

Yep, foreign troops have indeed been trained on US soil. At the request of foreign governments for use in their own countries.

Mexican troops brought mobile water treatment plants & kitchens to San Antonio to help. It was a kindly gesture, in the same way that US troops often enter foreign disaster zones to help.

I know some history, I just don't rely on the same, ahem, sources as you.

The point is that you alleged that we were just teetering on the edge of a facsist military takeover, and that the population would eagerly accept it. Really there is not much rational evidence to indicate any such thing.

 

Oh boy, here we go again.

Wasn't to long ago there was this event in New York city called the RNC remember it? Hundreds of thousands protested but the media only showed a fraction of that. I listened to "live" radio broadcasts from this event. The police were setting up "dragnets" they imprisoned hundreds of protesters in an old bus garage...not to mention the "free speech zones".

I could go through and give you the minute by minute but you'd just discount all the evidence as you normally do to shine a favorable light on the state's questionable activities so there isn't really much point.

Strange from the videos I have seen they were dragging American citizens away to "camps" while they sreamed "I have rights, I have rights". How is it you keep missing all this? By choice or by accident?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gt2pQgW3wX8&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=932Zu4e4iVM&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G25JiGMLxIA&feature=related

Well, that's the official story anyway. Why the mercenaries? Why was FEMA cutting communications lines?

No you completely overlook any "source" the establishment tells you to like the good citizen you are NS. I'm thinking you know a little social studies maybe. If you knew any history at all I wouldn't have to tell about the "man on the white horse" ploy.

And you say you know some history??? Do you have to work hard at being so naive or does it come natural? Have you forgotten how hard Bush campaigned for "martial law" powers??? Habeas corpus has been repealed, Posse comitatus for all intents and purposes is dead and all the police state legislation that is now in place staring right in the face and yet you say there is "not much rational evidence to indicate any such thing"???

What planet are you living on NS? Because is sure isn't planet earth. Planet head in the sand maybe but not this one.

Incredible.