Obamacare and Death With Dignity

As a matter of fact I have. But that's irrelevant.

You've been accused of being consistently liberal, and true to that accusation you judged the morality of an issue by it's convenience. You all go ahead and murder your parents.

We Christians will love ours, and you'll imprison us for it.

 

And the evil continues.

 

That is assuming that you were able to match the market in your investments. Few people are able to do so. Few people are willing to work at investment research. If you did, or could match or beat the market, good for you. That would be great. However, most people would not have invested and would have ended up with no money. Do some research and see who the elderly were living prior to SS.


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Originally Posted by Crabtownboy View Post
Are you afraid to die?

Old Regular wrote in reply:

That is hardly an honest reply. Are you afraid to die?

 

Hiding behind you fears and refusing to answer. Oh, and hiding by attempting to insult. OK, we now know you are terrified by the idea of death. So no more about it. The answer is obvioius.

Have a blessed day.

 

I respect that stand. The problem is more and more employers don't offer retirement medical as a benefit. I know that my company stopped doing that in 2000. They offer a supplement to Medicare but that's it. If you're not wealthy how will you pay for your own health care?

 

I understand your feeling but unless the law is changed when you turn 65 you will join Medicare. Unless you are a member of Congress or retired from the military and possibly retired government workers you do not have a choice in this matter.

You do not have to take social security. Everyone should plan their retirement years as if social security will not be available to them.

 

And the evil population control is alive and well on this board.

 

Are you a prophet or just a fear monger?

 

Evil??? How do you come to that?

One of the toughest questions being asked today in health care is when does it not make sense to treat a patient. Do we put a pace maker in a 95 YO patient with cancer? How long do we leave someone in a comma on life support? The reality is it will cost more if we want to insert the pace maker or leave people indefinitely on life support. End of life care is a serious issue here and now.

Obama's grandmother with cancer broke her hip so he has some first hand experience with this situation. The insurers didn't replace her hip. Before you ask, I have no opinion on did they do the right thing or not. That is not why I brought that up.

Currently these decisions are being made by the insurance companies executives who are profit driven. I don't like that any more than I like the bureaucrats in DC making these decisions. If I have insurance from your company and have my premiums paid to date, how is it you can drop me when I get sick? These are serious concerns and situations where the free market fails the society.

So I believe the GOP has a valid point when they speak of rationing health care but I believe the facts regarding rationing are too complex and shouldn't be used in this manner. America overwhelmingly (71%) want reform and it would be nice if the GOP would let the 71% openly discuss these challenges facing our society without the fear of being assigned a dirty name (socialist etc...) for having an idea. That is non-productive when it comes to solving our problems.

We all know it takes less courage to say NO and try to ignore our problems than to admit we have challenges and be willing to sit at the table of discussion with an open mind and beneficial suggestions and work to solve them.

 

Here... Sorry, it was 72% so I stand corrected.

GOP is preventing open discussion by making a sin or or assigning a bad label to everything someone publicly says. Like the great Senator said, their sole aim is to stop Obama from succeeding and they can careless what that means to people in need.

 

Well, abortion is a sin - and that sure doesn't slow down the democrats or their Christian supporters. Why do you think that what others call Obamcare makes a difference?

 

So where is the actual poll? No link was provided to the poll only a claim tot he poll.

 

Only if you make it a sin. There is no law in the Bible that says, "thou shalt not have an abortion". And because there is no such law, you are stating your belief and not a biblical fact.

Secondly, no one has mandated abortions in the legislation. That I know of??? Did you find it mandated?

 

Only place I could find it was here

 

Thou shalt not kill

Exodus 20:13-----------IS a Biblical fact!!!!!!

Mandated murder and voluntary murder is still what?????

Murder