Oh-goodie, another black eye...

You got that right.

 

Well....... you must live in a part of the country where there is NO law enforcement. But then too, you did choose to stand your ground and fight with him instead of calling for help. Does your husband not defend you either??? Do you have a cell phone??? Do you have a video camera to record the proof of a blocked driveway??? YOU could have remained in your locked vehicle and called 911 on your cell. Or, you could have left your vehicle in the precarious position in the driveway and gone back into your house to make the 911 call and record the position of both vehicles on video tape. There are just too many actions that could have been taken instead of calling the offender names.

Of course, then too........ when the derogatory word came out of your heart ...... errrr, I mean your mouth.... didn't you realize that your "defending of homosexuals all of your life" somehow didn't exactly equal that hateful word???

There must be more to this story.....

 

Regarding Swaggart - before his adulterous affair and his rebellious attitude toward the authority of his denomination, I too found favor with his preaching.

His death comment I now find deplorable and the fact that he thought it to funny is equally nauseating.

I wonder how Jimmy Swaggert would react if one of the people in his community were to say of him: "If I see that adulterous Swaggert eyeing MY wife/daughter/etc, I'll just kill him and tell God he died". Yeah! I wonder if Jimmy Swaggert would find THAT humorous???

Not defending the homosexual lifestyle, but I don't wish death on any of them either. Homosexuals have been attacked, assaulted, maimed, murdered and harrassed for such a callous remark in the past. It is unconscienable that ANY man of God would be so disrepectful to another human being.

 

Amen!

Thank you, BillyMac!

 

You know waht? I could very well, or my hubby could verry well walk into his church and say that, but then again we would be breaking our rule about not even turning around in their parking lot! Oh gee how do we go about doing that to where he can hear it without stepping foot (or driving car) onto his properity?

Stacie

 

It seems like to me you should get a good Christian Lawyer to defend your rights. Yes, you did wrong by hitting back (in the eyes of the law) but he hit you first or so I gather from your post and in the eyes of the law, he is just as guilty of assulting you as you are of assaulting him.

Just my 2cents.

Stacie

 

There is no more to this story. The story above is exactly what happened. I could add to it by saying that he, and his whole family has persecuted me all because I am a Christian. They watch me and my family all day everyday. They watch my husband leave for work at 4am and they are constantly watching my windows. I do not open my shades anymore and I do not let my children play out in fornt of their own house.

Could I have handled it differently? Sure....
But when your being confronted you do not always act rashionally. I did not have a cell phone on me and I do not own a video camera. I originally got out of my car because he hit it, so even if I were to pull forward to get out and go into my house I believe no matter what they would have attacked me.

Where was my husband? He was upstairs in our Apt. having no clue as to what was going on. When my mom finally rang the bell for him to come down, it was pretty much all over.
I did not hit him first. You say I should not have hit him...... I have been in sbusive relationships just about my whole dating life, I was beaten beyond recognition. Yes I am a Christian but I will never allow anyone to just hit me and me just stand there and take it. Trust me, I was not going to walk away, there were 6 people blocking me and pushing me back. I am going to defend myself.
I do not just go and hit people. He spit on me twice, pushed me several times then punched me. I guess I should have smiled and said "THANK YOU"?

I don't know where your from, but I live in the inner city, we defend ourselves here.

I am not trying to justify myself. I was wrong, and I was not very Christian like. God has already forgiven me, and I didn't come here and tell my story to be persicuted by my fellow Christians.

I feel that I was unjustly treated by the law. He got away scott free, last I checked hitting someone was against the law. I hit in self defense, he hit because he is not a man.

Just heed my warning fellow christians.

 

Stacie,

At this point a lawyer can't help me. I go to court tomorrow morning. I can not afford a lawyer, and leagal aid is a joke around here. They are secular and will not care how I as a christian was percicuted by these people.

Also, I didn't get arrested for hitting him. That was one of the charges since I was brought in anyway, but I was primarily arrested for calling him a "fag". The police came and just told us that if we wanted to file charges to go up to the court house that monday and do so, and then he lat us go, that's when the neighbor brought up the fact that I called him a "Fag" and after I was let go, they came and arrested me.
By the way, I was never read my rights either.

Ahhhh, our justice system.

If I was attacked by a man, in a sexual way as in rape, I wouldn't call the police. They are so twisted that they would probibly find a way to blame the victim. Something has to be on the books that says it's against the law to just look like a man wants you.

I am ashamed of being an American.

 

My word. Now that more of the story comes out, it seems that your rights were diffenaltlly trampled on. And I agree with you no matter the legal results I would have defended my self too. I was just pointing out the way that the law sees it.

But he should have been charged as well and since when is calling some one a name a crime?!

There should be some Christian lawyer around that would take this case pro-bono. Just on principal. But that's opinon not reality. OK so Stacie needs a reality check here.

But still, can you call around and see if anyone can help you out? Your defence lawyer isn't trying to help you out here? I mean you were asualted first!!!

I just don't get it. I do believe it. I just don't understand it. If the charges don't get dropped or if you have to pay a fine or spend time in jail, I would diffentaly file for inadiquate represntation. Not sure of the process, but I would find out! This is just rediculas. (Sp?)

Stacie

 

Oh yeah, I do believe that the whole case can be dropped because you were not read your Maranda Rights. Not sure but I would look into it on a legal site.

Stacie

 

azwyld,

It makes since to me. After all there are homosexuals who have come out of homosexuality and become Christian.

 

BibleMaMa,
This could be your wake-up call to get outta the inner city to a place that safer than where you are. It sounds as if you are being persecuted unmercilessly. What good will it serve for you to remain where you are not wanted and where your children have to live incarcerated inside their own home???

While you remain, I'd like to suggest that you pray a hedge of protection around your family, your residence, your vehicle(s), and yourself. And for the sake of peace between you and your enemies, pray also for that protection around them. Give thanks to God for a situation in which you are able to rise up and overcome. Be the bigger person, BibleMaMa, and ask for the forgiveness of the one you offended with the derogatory name calling. Afterall, you'll never be able to convince them that you mean them no harm unless you heap coals on their heads by giving good to them for the evil they have given you. Consider this post encouragement.

 

Billy Mac, I do not know the sitution that BibleMama is in, but maybe she can't leave the innercity. I don't think anyone lives there by choice. They may not be able to move. Maybe God put her there for a reason. If she can move, I suggest that she does, but I won't look down on her if she can't for what ever reason.

Stacie

 

Well, Stacie...... if God put her there for a reason I'm sure it wasn't to call homosexuals derogatory names and smack em in the face even if it was in self-defense. And I don't look down on her either, anymore than I look down on the militant in-your-face homosexual.

Just because she lives in an innercity setting doesn't excuse her bad behavior even if provolked or harassed. And then too, how many people have you encountered who attack, harass, or otherwise agitate without being attacked, harassed, or otherwise agitated themselves??? I'm not saying it would never happen, but if it did it would be very very rare. And then to have law enforcement charge her and not them....???

Maybe I'm just too suspicious....

 

BibleMaMa I sent you a PM

Stacie

 

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">BibleMaMa,
This could be your wake-up call to get outta the inner city to a place that safer than where you are. It sounds as if you are being persecuted unmercilessly. What good will it serve for you to remain where you are not wanted and where your children have to live incarcerated inside their own home???

While you remain, I'd like to suggest that you pray a hedge of protection around your family, your residence, your vehicle(s), and yourself. And for the sake of peace between you and your enemies, pray also for that protection around them. Give thanks to God for a situation in which you are able to rise up and overcome. Be the bigger person, BibleMaMa, and ask for the forgiveness of the one you offended with the derogatory name calling. Afterall, you'll never be able to convince them that you mean them no harm unless you heap coals on their heads by giving good to them for the evil they have given you. Consider this post encouragement.

[ September 30, 2004, 11:25 PM: Message edited by: BibleMaMa ]

 

Well I had a long post written but somehow was messed up when I tried to edit it and I will not write it over.

"Suspicious" will have to remain so... that post was geared to you. Oh well, it was a good one too!

 

Gee..... I feel slighted, BibleMaMa. Please try that post one more time. I'd like to see what you have to say.

 

Knowing your being a smart mouth, I will not and do not have to justify myself to you or anyone. I would have been glad to talk to you if you were serious.
You give Christians a bad name. Do you heckle Rape victims too? Do you heckle people who have been molested" You sure strike me as a person with no grace.

I have nothning else to say to you.