Old People's Church

I am middle aged white folk and realize that I am growing older every day so how am I being racist against my own race when I am meerly stating my observations of spesific churches in which I have described?
FYI they do exist no matter how much you want to believe they don't.

 

only Pharacees think like this.

Jesus came to save the lost not the self righteous,
He said so Himself.

 

So, are you including yourself in the racist group, or just all of the other "Old white folks"? We are mostly "old white people", but our doors are open to all, and we do have som black in our churches, not in mine particular but they are welcome. I preach with black preachers often.
It puzzles me why would you call them racist, they can't even defend themselves and don't even know, someone is calling them racists?

 

AA, I am not saying we do not preach the Gospel to every creature. I am saying church is designed for believers. Grk. word for church, literally means 'called out'. The church is a 'called out' assembly of believers. It should be geared toward training up those believers and glorifying God by teaching His Word to His people.

Do you disagree with this statement?

 

Brother Bob
why are you trying to turn this into an issue?

I am not a Racist
if you think these churches do not exist then you are very nieve and willfully ignorant of them.
I think I have said all I am going to say about this matter.

God Bless you all.

 

God Has called all to repentance
the church should be a soul winning station.
not for a weekly social gathering for the brethren
the main purpose of the church is to win lost souls to Christ.
the purpose for Sunday School is Discipleship.
that is all.

 

This is the first time I've actually heard someone say that the main purpose of the church is to 'win souls.' What verse is that?

 

Okay, I apologize for saying you "forced" people out of your church. So let me rephrase the question. How many of your folks stay in the parking lot till the music is over because they can't stand it?

 

.......................you are very nieve and willfully ignorant

and then God bless you all...........

 

Zero.

If you would have carefully read my answer, you would have seen that it was not a church service, but a benefit concert for Children's hospital.

On a given Sunday during worship, there is no one in the foyer or parking lot.

You tell me.

Our church has grown since 2000 by 600 percent in the 12-20 age group.

Our church has grown 425 percent in the 50 and over group since 2000.

Sounds like to me we've figured out how to love one another and get along.

Perhaps I should sic them on the BB.......nah, no sense in discouraging them.

 

Hay, who am I to argue with those kind of numbers? Yeh, you better keep your people off BB, they might get discouraged and become a negative statistic.

 

Big numbers don't mean a thing look how many people where saved on the ark 8 souls saved.:thumbs: I thought I would point that one out.

 

I agree that church services should not be social gatherings.

I partly agree with what you say about the purpose of the church, but I would say that one of the main purposes of the church is to make the gospel known to unbelievers - the church cannot "win" them for Christ; it is Christ Himself who does that. But that does not mean that when we gather to worship God in a service, the main aim should be getting unbelievers in. Don't misunderstand me; I say encourage them to come in, and praise God if they do. But the main purpose of the church service is to worship God.

I think what you say about "Sunday School" may be another example of the difference between the English used in the United States, and the English used here in the UK. Here, a Sunday School is usually for children, some of whom may be Christians themselves, some children of Christian parents, and some neither of those things. So Sunday School here is seen very much as an outreach work, rather than a discipleship class. (I should add that a few churches here do have what they call an "all-age Sunday School", where newly-converted Christians are build up, and unbelievers taught as well).

 

Excellent point. Do you feel qualified to say who is and isn't saved, then?
I thought I would point that out.

 

No but God does and he is the one who saved them 8 souls. Out of all the world only 8 souls. Mt 7:13-14 Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to DESTRUCTION, and MANY there be which go in thereat. 14 Because strait is the gate and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that FIND IT. I thought I just point that out.:thumbs: Don't put other churches down and this board down because you thank you figured out how to get people in to your synagogue.

 

"Many do not realize that Protestant/Baptist worship is its own culture, distinct from the pop culture and the evangelical culture of Christianity in our country today. The church must develop and maintain its own cultural language that reflects the values and structures of the Scriptures and not of the current culture. This church language can only be shaped by a biblical theology which affirms the real presence of Jesus Christ in worship and our belief that this presence binds the culture together as a community. The context that shapes our distinct Protestant/Baptist ethos is Scripture, theology, and history. Local circumstance is secondary."

Anonymous

A statement I found some time ago and saved it in text format for just this occasion.

 

Friend, let me help you out (which way did you come in?):

Why don't you explore all my posts and point out one solitary time I've belittled anyone's church because they're small. Find one and I'll profusely apologize.

I haven't figured out anything. God's blessing us numerically. God blesses many churches in many ways...one day He may allow us to not grow in number, but I pray the Holy Spirit still moves. I'm thankful that God is moving powerfully in large and small churches alike. It is correct to say that numerical increase doesn't mean God's blessing...but it is wrong to say that just because a church is growing, that God is not in it.

Sorry you have such a chip on your shoulder. Try and stay away from putting words in my mouth, if you don't mind.

BTW: We're in a "church." We're not Jewish. I'm not on the Jewish Board.

 

I almost said (typed) something last night, but this is the week before school and as web administrator, I'm up to my proverbial eyeballs.

We should be celebrating with each other. We should be shouting AMEN that people are going to church, excited about church, and hearing the gospel, because that means that someone will come to know Jesus.

When someone else is excited about what's happening at his/her church, it may be that they are excited about the work that God is doing and that they aren't just braggin' and boastin'. They just want to share!

I'm thrilled to see God at work in a church that's got new people coming to it. I'm thrilled to see God working in a church that looks on the outside like it's maintaining. Sometimes we hear magnificent stories about churches that look like they might just be crumbling from within, but God raises them from what looked like death to us.

We as Baptist know there has to be at least three Baptist churches in even the smallest of towns because of the way we are. But let's celebrate when we see God working, even if it is in one of those other churches!

 

Amen!!!:thumbs: :godisgood:

 

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Ya these are not my words. :thumbs: