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Oneway Bipartisanship

Discussion in 'Political Debate & Discussion' started by LeBuick, Feb 19, 2009.

  1. LeBuick

    LeBuick New Member

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    62% of American's feel Obama is doing enough to reach out to the other side of the isle while only 27% feel the GOP is doing likewise. Seeing that Obama won with only 52.87% of the popular vote, this means he has gained about 10% traction from those who didn't give him their vote...

    http://hotlineoncall.nationaljournal.com/archives/2009/02/reach_out_ill_b.php

     
  2. OldRegular

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    Bipartisan is when Republicans cave and vote like democrats.

    Partisan is when Republicans stick to principle and don't cave to democrats.
     
  3. LeBuick

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    Bipartisan is when Republican's meet the Dems halfway. Dems wanted spending and the GOP wanted tax cuts so tax cuts were in the bill.

    However, the GOP definition of bipartisanship is you do it my way or I won't give you my vote.
     
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    The only example of bipartisanship by democrats in recent years was their vote for the war in Iraq, which they shortly repudiated.

    I don't care if democrats are partisan or not. I am partisan. It is just the fact that they continually lie about it and the leftist media goes along with it.

    As far as tax cuts in the bill, 13 dollars a week is going to save the economy. Democrats are a bunch of charlatans who are able to fool an uneducated and uninvolved electorate.
     
  5. LeBuick

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    Let's say there are 100 Million tax paying working American's. $13 a week would equal $1.3 Billion a week in potential new spending. I don't know about your thinking, but I call that stimulating the economy.
     
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    Two meals a week at McDonalds does nothing for the economy.
     
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    Bipartisanship: Both parties doing what I say.
     
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    No it doesn't. Here is clear evidence of your twisting of poll facts.


    http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,496545,00.html
     
  9. LeBuick

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    Even with your numbers is has gained over the number who voted for him. This meas non-supporters are happy with his performance so far.
     
  10. Magnetic Poles

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    Funny how during the last administration, there was no attempt at bipartisanship, and if anyone did disagree, they were disloyal obstructionists. Now bipartisanship means that even though your side lost, you want to make the rules. Sorry. Doesn't work like that.
     
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    Bipartisanship -- Purchasing a portion of one's male offspring's seagoing vessel.
     
  12. Pastor Larry

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    My oh my ... How short your memory is. Did you forget No Child Left Behind, the Patriot Act, and other bills like it? There was plenty of bipartisanship in the last adminstration. It just doesn't fit your argument so you ignore it.
     
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    The right hand giveth and the left hand taketh away. Unfortunately the left hand taketh more than the right giveth.
     
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    All the above is totally false. President Bush went to DC thinking he could work with democrats as he did in Texas. With few exceptions he soon found out that was not correct. The DC democrats are a totally different crowd. They have the mistaken opinion that they have been chosen to lead this country. Unfortunately it appears that they are determined to lead us to destruction.
     
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    No, you're confused. The charlatan was George Bush.
     
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    JC
    Every time you enter a post you prove my point!
     
  17. J.D.

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    To illustrate how real bipartisanship would work, here is two scenarios:

    Scenario #1:

    1) You need money

    2) I have money

    Solution: I give you half my money. This is NOT bipartisanship. It is mutual destruction because we both lost something. You lost your self respect by getting money you didn't earn. I lost half my money. It's a lose-lose.

    Scenario #2:

    1) You need money

    2) I have money

    Solution: I hire you to cut my grass. This IS bipartisanship because we both get something we need. You got some money and I got my grass cut.

    And here a scenario that explains why conservatives should never compromise:

    1) You want change

    2) I don't want change

    Compromise: I meet you "half way". You win, I lose. Repeat the same process in the next congress. And the next. And the next. You get it by now.

    And the question for the liberals becomes, "how many times do I have to compromise before you will like me?"

    This was Bush's mistake - he thought if he gave them a half or better of what they want that they would like him. BIG MISTAKE.
     
  18. LeBuick

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    Bingo, it is clear the do nothing party doesn't want change but won't accept the title obstructionist for standing in the way of those who do want change.

    GOP = No change = I agree 100%...

    Then they criticize Obama for not being able to change their position... One of those things that makes you go HHhhmm??
     
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    Oh, thee of selective memory. Bush went in to run the show his way. How many Dems did he put on the cabinet? Turns out Bush wasn't "The Decider" after all. We the People are the deciders, and we finally decided we had had enough of his mismanagement and lies.
     
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    Can you imagine if it were $50 a week? That would be actual stimulus. But that $50 a week is going to "make work" jobs that won't help the economy.
     
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