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This is a fallacy. The doctrine of the eternal security of the believer has precious little to do with Calvinism. It existed long before what is known as "Calvinism" ever existed. Most non-Cals on this board believe in eternal security. It is a doctrine totally distinct from Calvinism.

 

I believe in OSASBJ.


Once Saved Always Saved By Jesus! :thumbs:

 

Another would be severe Lordship salvation, that one can live for God well long time, but still not adhere to keeping the law well enough long enough, and might show themselves not really saved!

Almost like true christian cannot sin in an habitual matter at all, must observe/obey commandments of God!

So the one who keeps to the end will prove to be real in the end, no fake christians cam mimic that, so all real ones stay saved!

 

could be, but I do NOT hold to thast, as one would reach a state of sinless perfection in that system!

maybe realised Westlyn?

can a saint that reached such a state per westley still loose his salvation?

 

Thank you DHK.

 

Kept by the power of God unto salvation (1Pt1)

Sealed by the Holy Spirit unto the day of redemption (Eph 4:30)

But whosoever drinketh of the water that I shall give him shall never thirst; but the water that I shall give him shall be in him a well of water springing up into everlasting life (John 4:14)

 

My first thought when I saw the thread title was, "Oh, no -- not again!"

This one is easy for me. I don't agree with any form or version of OSAS. Not 1-5, or 1-100.

 

What about the irony that one could hold to attaining a state of spirit perfection, and yet still get lost!

 

I know whom I have believed, and am persuaded that he is able to keep that which I have committed unto him against that day.

He can, and He will. Are those here that doubt His promise saying that he wont?

 

"Perseverance" is the correct term because an elect person will continue to "work out his salvation in fear and trembling."

 

I am not a Calvinist, so I don't consider perseverance to be the correct word at all. The correct theological term for the concept that you are referring to is "sanctification," and has nothing to do with eternal security. I did refer to OSAS, that Christ has promised to keep me to the very end.

 

Like I said in a previous post, the only OSAS I know is from the scriptures I have posted. If you feel a need to place me into a category of your own making then feel free to do so. You tell me what kind of a OSAS# I am.

 

Now brother, you know all eternal security OSAS believers are Calvinist! We are at least a 1 point Calvinist. :laugh:

Which brings a thought to my mind, if the anti-osas camp considers all osas believers to be at least 1 point Calvinist, then it would not be wrong for us osas believers to consider all anti-osas proponents to be at least 1 point Mormonist. For the Mormons believe that a person must have merit for the blood of Christ to be applied on their behalf. Only after a person does the best they can do will the salvation of Christ be granted unto them. This sounds exactly like HP's argument on this subject. HP likes to call us all Calvinist, so I guess I will see him as a Mormonist to be fair.