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"OUR" Faith OR CHRIST'S Faith?

Discussion in 'Other Christian Denominations' started by Ztheberean, Nov 19, 2007.

  1. Ztheberean

    Ztheberean New Member

    Nov 27, 2006
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    We need to (learn how) to come from (OUR) faith (which is spoken of in all the world (Rom 1:8) to (Christ’s) faith (which is spoken of only by FEW Matt 9:37, Lk 10:2, 1 Cor 4:15). (Rom 1:17) What if some don’t believe this? Shall their unbelief make the faith of God without effect? Are you being taught how you can have the faith OF Christ? Then you have asked God to crucify “YOU” with Christ, (and through this process of your crucifixion) it will no longer be “YOU” living (for your own self, and yours) But Christ living in you (and over you, so that you could be for others, rather than against them) (Gal 2:20); AND you will no longer call yourself a “sinner” (saved by grace) because you now understand, and have learned that God has forbidden Christ to be the minister of sin (Gal 2:17).

    Strong’s Hebrew # 1875 means to ask for something that has been well studied out, so that we can make valid claims, or inquiries, because we have done a very careful investigation. NOT TEN IN A THOUSAND BELIEVERS ARE WITHIN THIS ASKING, so that they shall live (Am 5:3-4) Therefore there is no real seeking through informed asking, unless we are first keep silent, (meaning learn) so that we can be into what is good, (God’s will, way, and work) and not into what is evil, (our will, way, and work) so that we might live. (5:13-14)

    Have you been sent a gentle and patient servant to instruct you in the way of repentance so that you could acknowledge this truth unto being recovered from the devil’s will (which is doing your own will, your own way, and your own work rather than God’s will, way, and work) ? ( 2Tim 2:24-26) Then you are learning how to purge yourself so that you can become a vessel of honor through God’s preparation, and be ready for your Master’s use ( 2:21); Those who are seeking to be justified by the faith of Christ (not their faith), will not be found calling themselves “sinners” (saved by grace) (Gal 2:16-17);

    Why? Because God has forbidden Christ to be the minister of sin. (Gal 2:17) This is why we need to (learn how) to come from (OUR )faith to (Christ’s) faith (Rom 1:17); Without which God’s wrath is upon all ungodliness of men who hold this truth in an unrighteous lifestyle, because when these believers said that they knew God, they did not glorify Him as God, so God gave these over to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, and they changed the truth of God (moving us) into a lie (that we can move ourselves) and worshiped the creation more than the Creator because they would not retain this knowledge of God;

    Consequently, God gives these believers over to a reprobate mind which is filled with all wickedness, envy, pride, lusts, judgmental attitude, unmerciful, and without natural affection because they are without this understanding. ( Rom 1:18, 21, 24-25, 28-31);

    Those who are called can receive (the teaching of) grace so that they can become obedient to the faith (Rom 1:6-5); Have you been sent a servant who has the spiritual gift (of grace, in it’s teaching) so that you can be established in the faith so that you would not be ignorant of these things? (Rom 1:11, 13) Then you are being comforted, because you are in the will of God (1:12, 10).

    Faith comes by hearing the (whole) word of God, but how can we hear without a preacher? How can one preach unless they be sent? So we need to be sent a preacher who can bring not only the gospel, but these glad tidings, and the good things (of what God can do in us) so that we might become obedient from our hearts. (Rom 10:17, 14-16, 6:17);

    Can you believe this report? Then you can become obedient to the gospel by asking God to create Christ in you by His workmanship, not your work, so that you could perform the good work that you were ordained to (Rom 10:16, Eph 2:10-9) because this is God’s gift (Eph 2:10-9);Which gift of God you need to ask for (Jn 4:10) For we are saved by grace through (the) faith (of Christ) (2:8, Gal 2:20) Is your faith standing in the power of God, OR in the wisdom of men? (1 Cor 2:4-5)

    If your faith is standing in the power of God then you are being taught by the Holy Spirit, which teaches us the comparison of scripture with scripture, so that we can spiritually judge all things when we have the mind of Christ (2:13, 15-16)

    Those who have lifted themselves up cannot walk uprightly, because they are living by “their own” faith not (CHRIST) faith (Hab 2:4) Examine yourself to see if you are in the faith, and prove it (using the scriptures); Without which you will be found as a reprobate (unfit, and not approved); For we can do nothing against the truth (2Cor 13:5,8); This doctrine which needs to be learned, causes those who are serving sin, to become obedient from their hearts (Rom 6:17)

    This doctrine causes divisions and offences to those who have not learned this, (or not willing to learn) and these are to be avoided and marked because they are not serving our Lord Jesus Christ (Rom 16:17-18) Servants of Christ can do the will of God from their hearts, because they are into pleasing God, more than pleasing men (Eph 6:6)

    Christians minister to those believers who put relationship before fellowship, (because relationships cause conflicts) but true fellowship has believers become united in the word of God. (Acts 2:42 & 46) Believers who want to remain ignorant of these spiritual truths, let them remain ignorant, because God is a God of order, However, this is not for salvation (by remaining ignorant of these things) but rather for decency, and order. (1 Cor 14:38 & 40)
    In Jesus name, Amen.