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Peace and safety

Discussion in 'General Baptist Discussions' started by Dayle, Mar 30, 2019.

  1. Dayle

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    2 Thessalonians 5:3 "For when they say, Peace and safety; then sudden destruction cometh upon them, as travail upon a woman with child; and they shall not escape".

    Several questions----

    1. Who are "they"?

    2. What event leads "they" to believe peace and safety has come?

    3. Who/what brings destruction that "they" shall not escape?

    4. When will this take place?
     
  2. poor-in-spirit

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    They are the believers in progressiveism. They are all around you. They teach your children in the public education systems of the industrialized world. They spread their religion throughout the airwaves, TV and the internet most of all. Most of the industrialized world accepts this new religion whether overtly or in the name of political correctness. The elite of the world believe that only they are capable of saving the planet from the peasant masses using its resources up. The latest generations are fully indoctrinated into it courtesy of the public educations system's "priests" or faculties. These latest generations cannot be recovered friends, it is too late IMO.

    After the man of sin is revealed and the reprobate population of the world rejoice over “peace and safety” from Trump and all evil, old white men, then sudden destruction cometh upon them, as travail upon a woman with child; and they shall not escape. Very quickly as God unleashes nature and hell against man, the world’s globalist, billionaire, lieutenants of the beast will realize that this new world economy will never recover from this level of devastation. They also realize at the same time that their FRAUD against humanity; their great social upheaval and victory scored over the whole world is now destroyed. They then publicly curse God as their hearts get even harder against Him. These sad snowflakes thought their "fictional god, born of their reprobate minds" was real and on their side, how disappointing for them.

    As it was 2000 years ago, so it is again. God's supposed "people" alive now can discern the face of the sky but cannot discern the signs of the times.

    Coming soon to a neighborhood near you:

    https://www.jesussaidwhat.com/trump-derangement-or-strong-delusio
     
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    Hey---I'm old, a man, and white.
    Do you included me with out knowing me?
     
  4. blacksheep

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    (That would be 1 Thes. 5:3).
    "But of the times and the seasons, brethren, ye have no need that I write unto you. For yourselves know perfectly that the day of the Lord so cometh as a thief in the night. For when they shall say, Peace and safety; then sudden destruction cometh upon them, as travail upon a woman with child; and they shall not escape. But ye, brethren, are not in darkness, that that day should overtake you as a thief."

    THEY...
    THEY are those upon whom the Lord returns "as a thief." Believers KNOW the Day of the Lord comes as a thief in the night because Paul says, "but of the times and the seasons, brethren, ye have no need that I write unto you. For yourselves know perfectly that the day of the Lord so cometh as a thief in the night." Other proof that THEY are NOT believers are the words BUT YE! According to Strong's the word BUT.... universally, by way of opposition and distinction; it is added to statements opposed to a preceding statement:
    In other words BUT YE...meaning believers as opposed to unbelievers, "are aware the Lord returns as a thief in the night.
    The passage doesn't indicate that 'peace and safety' has come to anyone. It indicates that THEY/non-believers desire and want "peace and security!"
    Jesus brings the destruction at the final battle, the times surrounding the Lord's return at the end of the tribulation, "the Day of the Lord."

    What is the day of the Lord? The New Testament calls it a day of “wrath, a day of visitation,” and the “great day of God Almighty." A future fulfillment when God’s wrath is poured out on unbelieving Israel (Isaiah 22; Jeremiah 30:1-17; Joel 1-2; Amos 5; Zephaniah 1) and on the unbelieving world. The time of the parousia...
    "The future visible return from heaven of Jesus, to raise the dead, hold the last judgment, and set up formally and gloriously the kingdom of God."
     
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