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Philippians 1 : 27

Discussion in 'Bible Versions & Translations' started by Friend of God, Jun 30, 2017.

  1. Friend of God

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    I read from the King James Version and the Holman Christian Standard Bible for my morning Bible study.

    This morning I was reading in Philippians and came to the first chapter the 27th verse. The King James has "only let your conversation be as it becometh the gospel of Christ" , while the Holman has "Live your life in a manner worthy of the gospel of Christ".

    Why the difference?

    Open for discussion.

    Thanks,

    Rob
     
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    In ye olde English, "conversation" meant "way of life" or behavior. So both are correct, depending on the century you live in.
     
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    I see, thank you Tim; that answers my question very well.

    Rob
     
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    The english use of that Greek word at time of Kjv meant conversation, but now we would see it as how we livbe out our lives!
    I have heard some use that from Kjv as trason not to swear/course talking!
     
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    You are dead wrong again. It is your pattern.

    Matthew Poole (1624-1679)
    "The original phrase...imports, that their deportment should be answerable to their citizenship, that they should behave themselves as might be most to the public good of the society to which they do relate..."

    The word "conversation" at that time meant exactly as what Poole said living in the early years of the KJV.
     
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    Thank you Rippon , that is very interesting and informative.

    Rob
     
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    NKJV. 'Only let your conduct be worthy of the Gospel of Christ.......'
     
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    You didn't quote the NKJV correctly, it should read "gospel" --not Gospel.

    "Whatever happens, conduct yourselves in a manner worthy of the gospel of Christ...."(NIV)

    Also, "We place an ellipsis of four periods at the end of a quote where words are missing. This series of periods includes
    the period that ends the sentence." (The Grammar Bible by Strumpf and Douglas, page 410). I just learned that myself. I knew that one should use three periods at the beginning or within a quote.
     
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    You actually proved my point, as what is described as our lifestyle today would be termed conversation back then....
     
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    The term conversation meant what we would know as a lifestyle now in Christ...
     
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    The above quote of yours is to remind you of what you actually said.
     
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    Only conduct yourselves in a manner worthy of the gospel of Christ, so that whether I come and see you or remain absent, I will hear of you that you are standing firm in one spirit, with one mind striving together for the faith of the gospel; (NASB)

    The Greek word translated "conduct yourselves" is "politeuomai" and means to conduct yourselves as a citizen, and in our case refers to being a member of the body of Christ and therefore our actions should be in accordance with the will of God. If we claim to be members but lack honesty or integrity, we are falling short of Philippians 1:27.

    Striving together for the faith of the gospel refers to the tenets of the gospel, rather than presenting an adulterated version.
     
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