Piper and Warren: Together for What?

No, its called getting back to other things. I made my point. You didn't get it. Life goes on.

3 or 4 of the links I gave had the point that I am supposedly shying away from. I am not going to keep repeating myself.

And if you want to be insulting now, well, that is up to you.

Take care.

 

But this thread has shown me one thing very clearly: People are seriously confused on Rick Warren. I have decided to write an in-depth article on him on my Xanga site. I really thought that more Christians would have had greater discernment, especially Baptists with their strong background of respect for the Bible.

 

"God likes variety" (Rick Warren's message to Muslim Convention)

Listen to this short link of RW telling Muslims that "God likes variety" and the dangers of stereotyping:
http://www.facebook.com/video/video.php?v=412298152929&ref=ss

And why would Warren even be speaking to a group of Muslims?

 

I'm with you Tom. I feel also that Warren rubs elbows with some very questionable fellows. Scripture (in many places) clearly warns Christians to be wary of false teachers and wolves in sheep's clothing. Warren is dangerously walking a thin line and crosses over into "can't we all just get along" and compromises the gospel message IMO.

 

No, it's called a "smokescreen" when one avoids the issue meant to get to the truth of a matter in a claim by reverting to other subjects.

You sure did! You made a false accusation which was I specifically noted and I called you on.

"I" didn't get it?!? To begin with, I simply asked for evidence of your "specific accusation" (which I even spelled out fo you) in which you claimed called for condemnation. You refused. You then offered nothing but fallacy to the argument (BTW, I am using the term "argument" as meaning a philosophical term that uses logic to get to the truth in a claim.) I spelled out exactly what you said in your claim, in context, sir, it is you who is not getting "it". (i.e. rational reasoning to support the truth of a claim)

I don't want to be insulting; I want recognition of the importance of getting to the truth of a claim in which you made here upon another. If it is insulting to you to be faced with this dilemma of being exposed in stating an untruth, that insult is self imposed as you are participating on a debate board and my purpose is not to insult but to reveal the truth in a matter concerning a "specific" statement/claim (not many statements which simply function as a smokesceen) through logical reasonings. (Philosophical Debate)

 

You have proven that some are indeed confused on Rick Warren.

 

You know...it would actually help to provided his statement in context.

Why wouldn't RW be speaking to Muslims? Do you only speak to believers? Would you work with a pro-life muslim to overturn Roe v. Wade?

 

I think this thread does well to demonstrate the reality of Christianity today:

It is easier to throw bricks than build bridges...and some are far more satisfied by the throwing.

Again, I am elated that Pastor Piper has invited Pastor Warren to this conference. (I won't be there but I don't go to conferences) It will provide a much needed bridge between fellow Kingdom workers. Thanks to both these men for using their bricks to build another bridge.

 

I am referring to speaking in a conference of Muslims, not just speaking privately to one. I write this as a clarification for others, not to W.

 

It is easier to build arguments out of stale cliches than to make your point with Scripture.

 

I fail to see the difference, nor how it is relevant.

 

Hey brother, keep up the good work. And I appreciate your prayers. We have yet to find a biblical church in our area.

 

Thanks very much, RefB. We will pray for you in your church situation. For the longest time we were in the same situation. In fact, now we do have fairly good pastor (Masters grad, but older). He is not a 5 pointer like me, but he does preach expositionally - almost unheard of here in Del Rio.

 

Who knows, next year he might invite MacArthur or Al Mohler . . . Let's hope not...Piper and Warren are VERY DIFFERENT than those two gentlemen....and I ain't crazy about Piper or Warren...But I choose to love them anyway. MacA and Mohler....I'm trying...Lord help me !!!!!
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