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Discussion in 'Baptist Theology & Bible Study' started by ktn4eg, Jan 20, 2014.

  1. ktn4eg

    ktn4eg New Member

    Nov 19, 2004
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    .... to understand the difference between what Jesus is teaching in the "Parable of the Sower" in Matthew 13:24-30 and what the Apostle Paul instructs us to do in II Corinthians 6:17.

    At first glance, what Jesus seems to be telling us is that we should do nothing at all with regard to unbelievers ("Let both grow together..." -- Matthew 13:30).

    Yet the Apostle Paul tells us to "...come out from among them [unbelievers--as in 6:14], and be ye separate, saith the Lord, ...." in II Corinthians 6:17.

    So, then, exactly what is an individual to do?
  2. preacher4truth

    preacher4truth New Member

    Nov 18, 2010
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    Hello ktn4eg,

    I was wondering if you have access to study tools? If you don't have them then you can get a free Bible software program here: www.e-sword.net. After you get this free program you can add other commentaries, books, devotionals, dictionaries, studies to e-sword for free here: www.biblesupport.com. You can also get a free phone app here: www.mysword.info and you can add to it from the www.biblesupport.com site for free as well.

    All of these tools are quite helpful for personal study.

    I believe the easiest way for you to understand the difference between the two passages is to realize the passage in Matthew refers to tares or false converts in the kingdom among those who are regenerate. We are however called upon to avoid these types within the church and elsewhere where 'brothers' behave this way; Romans 16:17 &c.

    In 2 Corinthians 6:17-18 Paul is warning believers to be separated from unbelievers in the world.

    John Gill comments on this here via e-sword:

    What we see then is there will be tares in the kingdom, and are to avoid them. We are also to be called out from the idolatrous world we live in and are called to be different and walk in His ways. Note Ezekiel 36:26-27. We must also realize that we cannot ever fully separate from 'the world' or it people as per 1 Cor. 5:10ff, and the only way we will permanently escape total contact is to 'go out of this world'.
    #2 preacher4truth, Jan 20, 2014
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  3. agedman

    agedman Well-Known Member

    Nov 4, 2011
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    Very good post with great links to good tools.

  4. Van

    Van Well-Known Member
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    Mar 4, 2011
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    Hi Ktn4eg, the first rule of Bible Study is to begin with prayer.

    Next, study all the passages dealing with the topic.

    In Matthew 13:30, Jesus teaches us not to "gather up" or "uproot" the tares, because we might uproot some of the wheat.

    From this we can draw two conclusions: One, we do not know who are the wheat and who are the tares, and two, acting on our limited view will result in harm rather than good.

    In 2 Corinthians 6:14, "unbelievers" are in view, not "tares" and so you seem to be comparing apples to oranges.

    Have you studied all the verses, if any, that address "tares" or folks within the local church who think they are born anew (wheat) but are not? Can you reach someone, and have them "rededicate" their lives to Christ?

    My experience is some join for a while but fade away, and John tells us they went out from us because they were not of us, i.e. not actually born anew. So our evangelism must be directed not only outside the church, but inside as well because a tare may be open to the gospel but did not understand that full commitment, wholehearted commitment to Christ is essential. Matthew 13 certainly teaches us that truth.
  5. Crabtownboy

    Crabtownboy Well-Known Member
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    Feb 12, 2008
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    I believe they are in complete agreement. The sower must go forth into the world to sow the seed. Then we see how different seed have different ends.

    The same with people. We, the sowers, spread the seed, the word. Thos who hear the word then have free will. Some reject the message immediately. Some accept the message, but fall away. Some accept the message and become firm and in time mature Christians.