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Political Correctness

Discussion in '2003 Archive' started by Salty, Jun 25, 2003.

  1. Dina

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    Reminds me of something I read a while back.

    BAD AMERICAN
    I'm a Bad American-this pretty much sums it up for me. I like big trucks, big boats, big houses, and naturally, pretty women.

    I believe the money I make belongs to me and my family, not some midlevel governmental functionary with a bad comb-over who wants to give it away to crack addicts squirting out babies.

    I don't care about appearing compassionate.

    I think playing with toy guns doesn't make you a killer. I believe ignoring your kids and giving them Prozac might.

    I think I'm doing better than the homeless.

    I don't think being a minority makes you noble or victimized. I have the right not to be tolerant of others because they are different, weird or make me mad. This is my life to live, and not necessarily up to others expectations. I know what SEX is and there are not varying degrees of it.

    I don't celebrate Kwanzaa. But if you want to that's fine; I just don't feel like everyone else should have to.

    I believe that if you are selling me a Dairy Queen shake, a pack of cigarettes, or hotel room you do it in English. As of matter of fact, if you are an American citizen you should speak English. My uncles and forefathers shouldn't have had to die in vain so you can leave the countries you were born in to come disrespect ours, and make us bend to your will. Get over it.

    I think the cops have every right to shoot your sorry butt if you're running from them after they tell you to stop. If you can't understand the word 'freeze' or 'stop' in English, see the previous line. I don't use the excuse "it's for the children" as a shield for unpopular opinions or actions.

    I know how to count votes and I feel much safer letting a machine with no political affiliation do a recount when needed. I know what the definition of lying is, and it isn't based on the word "is"-ever.

    I don't think just because you were not born in this country, you qualify for any special loan programs, gov't sponsored bank loans, etc., so you can open a hotel, 7-Eleven, trinket shop, or any thing else, while the indigenous peoples can't get past a high school education because they can't afford it.

    I didn't take the initiative in inventing the Internet. I thought the Taco Bell dog was funny.

    I want them to bring back safe and sane fireworks.

    I believe no one ever died because of something Ozzy Osbourne, Ice-T or Marilyn Manson sang, but that doesn't mean I want to listen to that crap
    from someone else's car when I'm stopped at a red light. But I respect your right to.

    I think that being a student doesn't give you any more enlightenment than working at Blockbuster or Jack In The Box.

    I don't want to eat or drink anything with the words light, lite or fat-free on the package.

    Our soldiers did not go to some foreign country and risk their lives in vain and defend our Constitution so that decades later you can tell me it's a living document ever changing and is open to interpretation. The guys who wrote it were light years ahead of anyone today, and they meant what they said - now leave the document alone, or there's going to be trouble.

    I don't hate the rich. I help the poor. I know wrestling is fake. I've never owned, or was a slave, and a large percentage of our forefathers weren't wealthy enough to own one either. Please stop blaming me because some prior white people were idiots - and remember, tons of white, Indian, Chinese, and other races have been enslaved too - it was wrong for every one of them.

    I believe a self-righteous liberal Democrat with a cause is more dangerous than a Hell's Angel with an attitude.

    I want to know exactly which church is it where the "Reverend" Jessie Jackson preaches; and, what exactly is his job function.

    I own a gun, you can own a gun, and any red blooded American should be allowed to own a gun, but if you use it in a crime, then you will serve the time.

    I think Bill Gates has every right to keep every penny he made and continue to make more. If it makes you mad, then invent the next operating system that's better and put your name on the building. Ask your buddy that invented the Internet to help you.

    I don't believe in hate crime legislation. Even suggesting it makes me mad.

    You're telling me that someone who is a minority, gay, disabled, another nationality, or otherwise different from the mainstream of this country has more value as a human being that I do as a white male. If someone kills anyone, I'd say that it's a hate crime. We don't need more laws! Let's enforce the ones we already have.

    I think turkey bacon, turkey beef, turkey fake anything sucks. I believe that it doesn't take a village to raise a child-it takes a parent with the guts to stand up to the kid and spank his butt and say "NO!" when it's necessary to do so. I'll admit that the only movie that ever made me cry was Ole Yeller. I didn't realize Dr. Seuss was a genius until I had a kid.

    I will not be frowned upon or be looked down upon or be made to keep silent because I have these beliefs and opinions. I thought this country allowed me that right. I will not conform or compromise just to keep from hurting somebody's feelings. I'm neither angry nor disenfranchised, no matter how desperately the mainstream media would like the world to believe otherwise. Yes, I guess by some people's definition, I may be a bad American.

    But that's tough.

    Still no definate link as to who wrote it. Supposedly it was penned by Ted Nugent, but he denies it, but does admit he wished it was his. [​IMG]
     
  2. Scarlett O.

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    To Mike Mck:

    "You're either a Miss or a Mrs. There is no such word as "Ms.".

    You just used it in a sentence. That qualifies it as a word. The dictionary defines it. It's definitely a word. ;)

    To Bro. James Reed:

    "When I hear a woman call herself "Ms.",....I would immediately be on the wrong foot with her."

    "Ms." just makes them (women) less important."

    "Maybe it's because I feel the need to show her her right place."

    And this is why you are not invited to the sleepover!!! [​IMG] (see previous post!)

    It's a good thing I don't look to people who make comments like this for my "place". [​IMG]


    Peace-

    YSIC
    Scarlett O. [​IMG]
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  3. ColoradoFB

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    One of the most misogynistic statements I have heard in a while. Where do we get such Neanderthals? Show her her place? Sad to say, this is why people view Baptists as wackos... when a religion codifys the subjugation of the female gender, it attracts people like Mr. Reed to it. His words show his contempt for women.

    I hope his type become extinct before my 5-year-old granddaughter grows up. You can bet, grandpa will teach her right, and not to take any guff off of a backwards-thinking man.
     
  4. Bro. James Reed

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    Well, wasn't that nice of you. Don't worry, I'll try to hurry up and die before your granddaughter grows up. :rolleyes:

    And, actually, my words show contempt for feminists, not women in general. I am more than happy to call a woman Miss, Mrs., or Ma'am to show respect. But, it seems to me, that the vast majority of women who insist on being called Ms. are the femi-nazis I was referring to.

    Note: I didn't say all, and I didn't say you are a femi-nazi if you go by Ms. I'm just stating the fact that it's been so emphasized by left-wing, liberal, feminists, that I would automatically make a judgment on what to think of that person. That may be wrong, but I am human and I judge people just like everyone else does. You can only make one first impression, and that is usually the impression that sticks. By using such a title, they appear to be a feminist right off hand, so that will be my first impression. It goes hand in hand with the old hyphenated name thing.

    Also, I would like to point out that I show the same contempt for men who have similar liberal attitudes. They should learn their place as well.
     
  5. stubbornkelly

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    Well, I am a feminist, but not a feminazi. [​IMG]
     
  6. ColoradoFB

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    Mr. Reed, I don't want you to die...I DO want you attitude toward women to come into the current century. I truly do hope that way of thinking becomes extinct.

    Every person has the right to be addressed in a manner of their choosing. Even if that is Ms., which as I pointed out, is one very useful innovation to come out of the feminist movement.

    Yes, it is wrong.

    And why should you object to what a person wants their own name to be? For that matter, why should a woman have to take her spouse's name at all? She is not his property...she is his partner, his help-meet for him, if you will.

    You really need to learn that it is not YOUR place to tell others what THEIR place is.
     
  7. Bro. James Reed

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    There IS a difference, Kelly. Just seems that most on here don't seem to get that I know that.

    I would say, a feminist is a woman who is more for promoting health and well-being in women. She is not the kind who will let her husband beat her...without beating back. :D

    A feminazi, however, goes out of her way to push her liberal ideology down the throats of everyone. She wants men to "pay" for being men. She considers all things "masculine" to be offensive to herself.

    Does that make sense? It just seems to me that most women that use the term Ms. are the same ones who are out to change the English language so as to make it more feminine. Obviously, this is probably not true, even in most cases, but the high-profile feminazis are the ones pushing these agendas, so they are the ones who come to mind when I think of them.
     
  8. Bro. James Reed

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    Listen, I am not out trying to change laws. I am not out protesting against someone for wanting to be called Ms. I am simply stating my opinion on the matter. I have every right to not like Ms. as you do to like it. You do have that right, I'm not going to take it away from you. But, I also have the right not to agree with it.

    BTW, I CAN tell anyone what I think their place is. Do they have to listen? No. But, I can still tell them what I think.
     
  9. Scarlett O.

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    Dear Bro. James-

    I think you have been misled by the very vocal radical feminist movement. Their agendas do include some pretty hateful things.

    But....

    There are a lot of Christian women like StubbornKelly and myself who do consider ourselves feminists. Not radicals. Not man-haters. But feminists nonetheless.

    I don't want to rise above any man, but by the same token, I will not lie under his foot.

    There is a lot of shame and degredation that countless women across the world go through everyday. In some countries more so than others. I try to keep people informed of it and I try to teach the young girls at my school to stand up for themselves in a humble and sweet manner, and I try to teach the young boys to respect themselves enough to respect girls in all area of life.

    And yes, that respect goes both ways.

    I think that when the term, "Ms.", first came about, it probably was term of defiance.

    But it has long since been anything but that. I have already said it, but I will say it again.

    The term, "Mrs." does not apply to me because I am not married.

    The term, "Miss", is juvenile and should be applied to school age girls. (College and below) At 41 years of age, it embarrasses me when people refer to me as "Miss".

    I live in probably the most redneck town in my state, and most men and women have attitude like yours.

    As a school teacher, I don't force the title on anyone. I sign my name that way and my name is on my door that way. Most people in my town use "Ms." to my face and when writing notes to me.

    But if a handful of people refuse or if they just don't know or maybe forget, then I don't worry about it. I don't get all in a knot over it.

    I smile and go on my way. However, I find that the majority of people who know me know that my feminism is not a hate-mongering philosophy, but one of raising standards of living for women, without pushing men around or down.

    Peace-

    YSIC
    Scarlett O. [​IMG]
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  10. Bro. James Reed

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    Scarlett, I can understand what you are saying and I suppose I can see your point. You are probably right about the vocal feminists. They are the ones we see the most, so we assume all feminists are like this. It would be like comparing all Christians with Al Sharpton or Jesse Jackson (pause to hold back my nausea).

    I probably still wouldn't use Ms., though mostly because I have never been in the habit of doing it, so it would not be natural if I did. I would have to think about it first, and, as most on here know, I don't usually think before I talk. :D

    Of course, when addressing a lady, without using their last name, I always say either Miss, for the younguns, or Ma'am for the over 30 crowd. How does Ma'am suit you?

    Bro. James
     
  11. Headcoveredlady

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    Can anyone tell me why I cannot call myself by my husband's name anymore? I have tried to use this: Mrs. (husbands first name) (last name). Sometimes this works, other times I am asked to give my name. Why should I give them my name?
     
  12. ColoradoFB

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    Technically, you cannot be Mrs. Jane Doe, as Mrs. means "Mistress of". Therefore you could be Mrs. John Doe, or just plain Jane Doe.

    At least that's how I recall Miss Manners explaining it. ;)
     
  13. Headcoveredlady

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    That is what I am saying has not been allowed. For instance last week I called a company to order a catalog. When the woman asked my name I said, "Mrs. John Doe." Then the woman said, "What is your name?" I said, "Mrs. John Doe." She pretty much demanded me to tell her my first name. I am not sure why I had to give her my first name. Why couldn't I be addressed as Mrs. John Doe on the address label? What is so wrong with that?
     
  14. ColoradoFB

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    If that is your preference, not a thing is wrong with that. You have the right to be addressed by whatever name you wish to be called.
     
  15. Major B

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    Not original to me, but...

    Mailman--not PC-- make it MailperSON

    MailperSON--hidden male influence--make it mailperIT

    MAILperit--again, hidden male influence

    PC for Mailman = itperit.
     
  16. Scarlett O.

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    Ma'am is just fine with me.

    To tell the truth, here in my part of the country, it is not always easy to hear the subtle difference between "Miss", "Ms.", and "Mrs.".

    When my children in my class write "love notes" to me, they use those three titles interchangeably and I don't bother to correct them.

    In fact, sometimes they forget where they are and who I am and they call me "Mama"!!

    One little girl slipped and called me "Grannie" one day. Now I definitely have to draw the line there!! [​IMG] [​IMG]

    Peace-
    S.O.
     
  17. Madelyn Hope

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    I prefer the title Ms. rather than Miss but it is more of an on paper thing. Around here the difference between Miss and Ms. in conversation gets sucked up in the drawl. (Of course in a few months I will get to change my title all together!).

    If I get married, I plan to keep either my maiden name or hyphenate my-last-name-his-last-name. This is mainly because I will have already started my professional career and already have publications under my name. I also just like my name and I love my initials which means that I either have to marry someone with a last name that has the same first letter as mine or keep my name.
     
  18. wizofoz

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    Hence, the PC phrase "letter carrier".
    (Hey!! Anyone order an "A"?) [​IMG]
     
  19. stubbornkelly

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    Ditto. Actually, I'd probably just keep my own professionally (legally) and use his socially.

    HCL, it may be because "Mrs. John Doe" is not your name. It may be what you go by, but it's not your legal name.
     
  20. Bro. James Reed

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    My question is this: Does she sign checks in this manner? If she does, then I would think it is her name.

    My grandmother signed her name Mrs. Willis Robertson until the day that he died. Now, she is just Ruby Robertson...that is, when she can remember it. [​IMG]
     
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