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Politicians Endanger Our Troops in Iraq

Discussion in 'Political Debate & Discussion' started by carpro, Apr 30, 2007.

  1. carpro

    carpro Well-Known Member
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    That seems to be what democrats in Congress believe. Shameful.

    On second thought, not really.

    They know the President won't sign the legislation they have sent him because it is a bad bill.

    The shameful part is that they know it's a bad bill and are going ahead with it.
     
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    The only good bill would be one that stipulated that the president must remove our troops from Iraq.
     
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    And he will get one.

    The hypocrats know Bush is right on this, and they will fund the troops. Bush is gonna get his bill.
     
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    "Hypocrats"? I hope that you are consistent and use the term "Hypopublicans".

    Other than a handful on the Republican side and Dennis Kucinich on the Democrat side most of those folks in the Congress wouldn't know prinicple if it stood in front of them.

    They already have. It's President Bush who is threatening to kill the funding.
     
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    When they start yelling about global warming, while riding private jets, I will.

    Dennis Kucinich & principle should never be mentioned in the same sentence. I think you know that.



    So you're OK with the pickle maker funding & minimum wage increases in the bill ? You won't put one ounce of blame on the hypocrats who spend your tax money writing bills that have no chance of passing ?
     
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    BTW, it is really good to see you posting, and it's really good to disagree without name-calling.

    God bless you, my brother.
     
  7. KenH

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    I disagree. I disagree with him on the vast majority of issues but Congressman Kucinich is definitely a man of principle. He and I just don't don't share many of the same ones. I consider him and Congressman Ron Paul to the be most principled members of the House.
     
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    Yes, Bush will veto it now, but I believe that eventually there will be enough votes to override his veto.
     
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    I hope they never give Bush a bill without a date to withdraw.

    You're so dramatic, you should have been a hypocrite, uh, I mean actor!
     
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    The President is a liar who deliberately decieved the American people to get us into a war that didn't need to be fought. As a result of this deception tens of thousands of people are dead and many more wounded or maimed. Still more have become refugees. When war is a choice, and not a necessary act of self-defense, it is an act of evil. Those who support unnecessary wars and act as its cheerleaders, are themselves participants in evil.
     
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    As to the bogus claim that "the President will not and should not allow his Constitutional authority as Commander in Chief to be usurped by Congress" my copy of the US Constitution states that Congress has certain legal authority as well:


    So, given what is written above, where exactly has Congress "upsurped" the Presidents' authority as Commader In Chief?
     
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    They haven't...yet. But they're trying.

    Your post proves that the Constitution does not provide for Congress to manage the disposition of our military forces in wartime operations.

    Those responsibilities reside exclusively in the President in his role as Commander in Chief.

    Thank you for your help.
     
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    That statement utterly undermines your credibility on any comments you may make about the War in Iraq.:rolleyes:

    If you feel deceived, maybe you should have paid closer attention.
     
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    If I were a betting man I would bet that if the Congress would give the president a bill without the timetable goals but left the pork in it that the president would sign it. The idea that after close to 6.5 years in office that President Bush is all of a sudden concerned about pork in spending bills is ludicrous.
     
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    I agree.:thumbs:
     
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    No doubt.:thumbs:
     
  17. KenH

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    President Bush stated in his veto message that "It makes no sense to tell the enemy when you plan to start withdrawing."

    So he thinks that the Sunnis and Shiites fighting in the Iraqi Civil War think that we will never withdraw?

    If things were calm I think that the president would say that we can't withdraw because if we do then hostilities might flare up. And when things are hot the president says that we can't withdraw because of the hostilities.

    I think that the bottom line is that President Bush has no intention of ever withdrawing our troops from Iraq, regardless of conditions on the ground, and never did.
     
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    Bush and the neocons will fight to the very last drop of someone elses blood!
     
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    And it surely wont be the war-mongers here who talk a good talk, but don't volunteer to go and fight themselves.
     
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    Such is the way with Presidents including Wilson, FDR, Truman, Johnson, Nixon, etc.
     
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