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Polls Mean Nothing: Read This and WEEP!!!

Discussion in 'Political Debate & Discussion' started by righteousdude2, Oct 27, 2008.

  1. donnA

    donnA Active Member

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    I agree God is concerned about His church and it is His church thats approving murdering babies. And you think He is unconerned about anything else, is He one track minded and cares nothng about those babies?
     
  2. LeBuick

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    I said AMEN to the fact that God is more concerned about his Church, I can't be held accountable for what you add or imply about my post.
     
  3. donnA

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    if you read the whole thing it has nothing to do with adding or implying, it has to do with people believing God is not concerned with His people approving murdering babies.
    It was said God is concerned with His chirldren, not things in the wolrd, murdered babies.
     
  4. saturneptune

    saturneptune New Member

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    You are exactly right. Yes, we all know that the two issues have been going on for many years. However, when I was growing up in the 50s, and early 60s, it was not condoned by society as a whole. Those engaged in such things kept it discreet, and did not flaunt it. Now, we glorify it. We have TV shows and movies about it. It has gone so far in the last few years, our government at all levels puts their official seal of approval on such activities.

    Yes, we have always been a flawed and sinful race. There is a big difference in sinning and trying to correct the problems and making it the normal standard in our country. There is a vast difference in sinning then repenting to the point where sin is flaunted and we as a nation rub God's nose in it.

    No, I have no idea when God is going to say enough is enough. Neither do I know when He is coming back to put an end to this circus. However, if you have live for 50 or 60 years, and think about the changes, common sense says it is a lot closer. God is not mocked.
     
  5. webdog

    webdog Active Member
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    When did God appoint you His prophet? I would be careful about speaking on God's behalf. Look at what happened to the false prophets in Israel!
     
  6. windcatcher

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    True, it may 'seem' that way: There is really only one significant issue which you may be referring to....... that of abortion, which you think unites all evangelicals.
    True, you might say that not all who are atheist and/or believers in evolution are against life or for abortion....just like one sadly must admit that not everyone who identifies themselves as "Christian" is Christian..... and possibly some new or true Christians are confused enough about issues, and have little cleric support for Biblical guidance that they do not know that abortion is evil.


    Abortion is a big issue as it is the gateway to other sanctity of life issues like euthanasia of the terminally ill, the frail and infirm, the disabled and deformed, those mentally feeble or emotionally sick, those which are dependant on the care of others for nourishment and hydration and cleanliness and/or machines for life supporting air. People of all religions and people without none have historically valued life and to some degree had their provisions of taking care of the sickly and weak. Sure you can find tribal exceptions but until recently it did not take a faith based stand for people to coelesce around a value of life issue... and it was a supporting majority.

    But we are fast becoming a society of death, accepting the humanistic and darwinian values that humans are a resource, in competition with other resources and as such have value dependant upon returns. Issues now surrounding health care, who get benefits, who are denied, penalizing and grouping the 'unhealthy and unfit' as though this is their fault, or whether the returns vs the cost of care are worthy of the expense..... are based upon humanist, socialist, darwininan values. The education and philosophies of 'elitist' have trickled down from the most venerable institutions, where these ideas were first of 'scholarly' debate in philosophical societies and clubs, into their professors who brought influence into the classrooms which educated professors and professionals. Their influence and these philosophies have trickled down, first a drip, then a stream, and now a flood into seminaries, universities, community colleges on into high schools and grade schools, developing a society of death. If you don't accept this, listen to the pop music of kids or find the lyrics to their songs which talk of killing, death, and suicide. Death counseling, once thought to be the responsibility of the home and church, with support from ones friends and associates, is now entering the schools on a level which goes beyond memorials; it is becoming a process of education ........ or rather indoctrination in the classroom and the stuff of exercises and assignments. Watch the movies or the trailers and notice how much death figures into the excitment of strange relationships and violence, how the occult is frequently part of plots, how violence and cruelty and torture are portrayed and even exaggerated, how frequent suicide is graphically portrayed...not just in movies but on t.v. and how video games which are so popular among the youth and young adults, capture their minds with voilence, killing, death, and the occult instead of promoting values of life.

    Politicians may not be able to turn back abortion on demand.... but they can influence through legislation and regulation and funding the promotion or the restraining of such influences. If it seems to you like it is a partisan issue.....then perhaps you are correct based upon how the majority of each party is represented by their leaders actions and worded in their platforms. If there are individual breaks from the party stance, it is more evident in the local arena which are entry positions into higher office.... and frequently on a level which many refuse to be cornered because 'this office on which I'm running has no control or relevance to that issue.' Beware of those who have no answer for a very important question which affects their attitude and decisions over more than just the unborn child and abortion.:tear: :tear:
     
  7. windcatcher

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    Test!


    I just posted but the thread didn't move up with the chronolgy of postings.



    Edited to add.....that it did with this posting.
    may board is fixed.......
    except that I do agree with Donna regarding what is really broken!
     
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