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Pope's health has improved "incredibly" since last month

Discussion in 'Free-For-All Archives' started by I Am Blessed 24, Nov 12, 2003.

  1. I Am Blessed 24

    I Am Blessed 24 Active Member

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    Wednesday November 12, 06:15 AM

    Pope's health has improved "incredibly" since last month: Lech Walesa

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    VATICAN CITY (AFP) - Pope Jean Paul II's health has improved "incredibly" since his exhausting schedule of 25th anniversary celebrations last month, former Polish president Lech Walesa said.

    "The suitable therapy must have been found because the pope has overcome his moment of weakness," Walesa said after meeting the pope at the Vatican with a delegation from the Polish Solidarity trade union.

    "This meeting has been very moving. The last time we were really concerned (about the pope's health), but this time, there has been an improvement," he said.

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  2. dumbox1

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    Thanks for posting that. I hope Mr. Walesa's right!

    Mark H.
     
  3. Yelsew

    Yelsew Guest

    And what if he's not? What difference does it make? Isn't there an assurity of papal succession? If this Pope goes on to glory the next one has already been "chosen" to succeed him, and is being "groomed". For God there are no surprises.

    Is your hope entirely on this current Pope? Is it not God the raises men to positions of prominence? Is God ever wrong in His choices?

    When this one is ready God will raise him to something new and replace Him with someone new. It's been that way for Milleniums.
     
  4. GraceSaves

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    Yelsew,

    What in the world was the point of that? We are speaking of a man's health, and that it is good that he is recovering from apparently a very bad spell of illness. I suppose this is bad news for you? If not, then why totally ignore the intention of this thread?
     
  5. dumbox1

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    Yelsew,

    I've got to agree -- I never thought expressing hopeful happiness (or happy hopefulness?) about someone's recovery from illness would be controversial.

    Mark
     
  6. Ray Berrian

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    I like best John Paul's strong stand against abortion and also about the fact that he views homosexuality as sinful and points to the correct way to live the Christian life, that being one man with one woman forever.

    I wish your 'Travelling Pope' the best of health and a long and reflective life.
     
  7. Kathryn

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    Thank you, Ray!
     
  8. Johnv

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    A new pope is not chosen until after the death of the current pope. Since JP2 will have been the 3rd longest sitting pope in history, few remember what the custom is:

    The college of cardinals meets in the Sistine Chapel. They vote to elect a new pope. During this time, there's no contact with the outside world: no phones, no media, no computers, no nothing. If they fail to reach a decision on a new pope, the ballots are taken and burned in the fireplace. The outside world will see a column of smoke rising from the chimney. If the smoke is black, then they have failed to elect a new pope. If the smoke is white, they have elected a new pope, who makes his first address to the public shortly thereafter.

    While I'm not a Catholic, I find the whole process quite nostalgic, and a bit romantic.
     
  9. Yelsew

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    The point of my post was not to disparage the man, but to point out that the OFFICE is secure no matter who is serving.

    This current Pope has grown weary and frail, and Like all the rest of us, He's "appointed once to die". So, what does it matter if a believing man of God does die and enter the presence of the one he's been serving as Pope, these past 25 years. He deserves to be "retired" and to receive the reward for his work just like any other man.

    Our Nursing homes are chock full of people in the same condition as the pope, and no one bubbles over with joy when one of them enjoys a temporary reprieve from sickness. It is therefore asinine to make such an ado over this most pampered of living human beings and not do at least the same for all others who are in like circumstances.

    The fact that he's the Pope don't cut butter!
     
  10. mioque

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    "Our Nursing homes are chock full of people in the same condition as the pope, and no one bubbles over with joy when one of them enjoys a temporary reprieve from sickness."
    US nursing homes are that bad!? :confused: :mad:

    The folks in my grandfathers nursing home (where he had to reside because he needed specialised care after suffering several strokes) were always quite bubbly when he made a temporary recovery. So were we. [​IMG]

    To be honest the first words of his eulogy were:" Pa is dood en dat is goed" (Dad is that dead and that is a good thing). [​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]
     
  11. I Am Blessed 24

    I Am Blessed 24 Active Member

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    No one? I beg to differ with you. When my parents were in a nursing home, you better believe we bubbled over with joy when one of them enjoyed a temporary reprieve from sickness!

    I am not a Catholic, but I was raised Catholic. It is sad when ANY good person dies.

    The fact that he can be replaced has nothing to do with the fact that he will be missed by his millions of followers!

    :( §ue
     
  12. Kathryn

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    Yelsew: Christians should rejoice when anyone gets a temporary reprieve from sickness. I can't believe you don't have any understanding of this. It is basic compassion. God will take John Paul II when his time comes. Until then Catholics can continue to love him as our Papa (POPE). When his time comes we will rejoice that he goes to be with the Lord, but he will be missed. "Pa is dood en dat is goed".

    God Bless
     
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