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Powell: Iran far from Nuclear Weapons

Discussion in 'Political Debate & Discussion' started by Ivon Denosovich, Nov 19, 2007.

  1. Ivon Denosovich

    Ivon Denosovich New Member

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    Story here.

    Powell seems to be in conflict with White House speculation.
     
  2. 2 Timothy2:1-4

    2 Timothy2:1-4 New Member

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    I cannot get thelink to work
     
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    Yes he has a different opinion , but that's all it is.

    He has been out of the loop for awhile.
     
  5. Ivon Denosovich

    Ivon Denosovich New Member

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    Officially, yes, he has been. But then again, Kissinger was out of the loop for over two decades and he's advising Bush on Iraq on a weekly basis now. ;)
     
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    Can you provide proof that Bush is still consulting with Powell, about Iran in particular?
     
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    Ivon Denosovich New Member

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    No, I didn't mean to imply that Powell and Bush (or anyone in the WH) have spoken about anything. What I meant to convey was former SoSs don't fall into a void and lose their ability to judge the world around them. Hence, they occasoinally return to service.
     
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    Btw, carpro, do you disagree with Powells' comments at the symposium on "Opportunity and Crisis in the Middle East" in Kuwait City? Which would be odd considering you took an Assyrian International News Agency report at face value-- an institution that 1) has never been in the loop 2) disagrees with everyone in the loop including every Republican and 3) is loaded with spelling and grammatical errors in its official "reports." (When a press release misspells the word "if" that's kinda sad.) I didn't know being "in the loop" was an issue with you.
     
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    :laugh:

    Except it wasn't an AINA report.
     
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    Has Powell returned to service?

    Another sensible question about the Powell opinion is how long is "a long way"?

    1 Yr? 18 Mos.? 2 Yrs.?
     
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    Of course, we could also ask how long is "imminent" which is the implication of the current administration. A question I believe you have yet to ask.
     
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    McClatchy says, "Experts: No firm evidence of Iranian nuclear weapons."

    Evidently, Powell isn't quite as "out of the loop" as one might wish to assume.
     
  13. 2 Timothy2:1-4

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    Two things:


    This is quite an indictment and should raise concer in everyone's eyes instead of waiting for Iran and Israel to begin a nuclear war.

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    If we are going to take seriously one of his statements with regards to no nukes in Iran then maybe we should take this one seriously as well.
     
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    I was being generous. Hence "report" appeared in quotations.
     
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    Why bother?

    They never said the threats from Iraq were "imminent".
     
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    And now you're being disingenuious instead of "generous". :laugh:
     
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    Is this supposed to prove Powell is still "in the loop"? :laugh:
     
  18. Ivon Denosovich

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    2 Timothy2:1-4, you make valid points. Admittedly, everything about Iran is speculation with some conclusions seeming more sensible than others. Such as this report from Cato:

    And:

    Also, as Cato scholar Ted Galen Carpenter notes, we may have contributed to the current state of things:

    (Outrageous fonts mine.)
     
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    Or, why bother reading:

     
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    No. Far, far from it. The fact that Undersecretary of State Nicholas Burns appears to agree with Powell proves that the AINA is in the loop and no one else. Ever.
     
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