Pre- Tribulation or Post-Tribulation???

doesn't matter

My position is that every day millions of people are going thru a great personal tribulation and it dosn't matter to them and neither does it matter to me.

 

Pre-trib.
Rapture, Tribulation, 2nd Coming, Armageddon, 1,000 year reign, Heaven.
The church does not go through the Tribulation, nor is it a victim in the Battle of Armageddon, and it does not go through the 1,000 year reign of Christ on earth (the promise of the Kingdom to the Jews fulfilled). Once caught up to meet Him in the air, there the church remains.

 

I am truly concerned about your statements here. It sounds like you've learnd this from the Word Faith teachings. When I was in the New Age, we believed that thinking or saying anything negative would attract negative things to us, and positive would attract positive. This is actually a principle from the New Thought Movement, which was not Christian at all. New Thought had a big influence on the New Age beliefs. It's also a principle in the occult and is used in magic. These teachings have infiltrated the church through New Thought students like Norman Vincent Peale and Robert Schuller, and through the Word Faith teachings.

Our tongue has power in the sense that our words impact others -- that is what James is talking about. But our tongues do not have power in the sense that saying something negative causes negative things to happen. This is not biblical at all.

The Bible is not about positive and negative, but good and evil.

 

Post-trib. I wish pre-trib was true because I don't want to be here during the tribulation. But I can't find it in the Bible.

 

Amil here..What tribulation? Where is a rapture? Maybe a rupture!

Thankfully my Jesus is on the throne right now, at the right hand of the Father, reigning over the universe...........and one day I will join Him in the victory.

Cheers,

Jim

 

That's basically where I stand as well. With all that is going on in the world...I REAAAAAAAALLY hope I'm wrong!

 

You can see the rapture in all kinds of OT types. You can see it in the story of Isaac and Rebekah. You can see it in Enoch. Just to name a couple.

And you can see it in I Thessalonians and in Revelation in chapters 1 and 4.

Oh yeah you can see it in the story of Lot as well.

It will happen. The kingdom is yet to come, but it is coming one-day as well. Christ is not sitting on the throne, He is sitting at the right hand of the Father and is our Advocate and High Priest. He will one day rule the nations for 1,000 years which is the age to come and then after that the throne will become the throne of God and the Lamb and eternity will be ushered in for mankind.

 

That's all ok if you accept mythology. I prefer the plain scripture, rightfully interpreted. Thank you very much.

My Lord is ON the throne.

Cheers,

Jim

 

Well, you can't be right about everything.

 

Pre-Trib!

Stephen said he is standing...

[55] But he, being full of the Holy Ghost, looked up stedfastly into heaven, and saw the glory of God, and Jesus standing on the right hand of God,
[56] And said, Behold, I see the heavens opened, and the Son of man standing on the right hand of God.

 

what's all this pre-trib, post-trib, a-mill. stuff?

i'll stick with pre-wrath. anyone ever heard of it?
i dont know a whole lot about it. but to me it sounds more biblical then any others.

but i dont focus on it. cause it really doesnt matter to me when it is. i'll keep examining myself according to scripture and will be ready. for i know He's coming (He will not come as a thief in the night to the christians that know He's coming)

but we dont know when. so i'll try to be ready as i can. with the Lord's help of course.
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but to answer the question: none of what you asked. pre-wrath.

 

Pre trib for me. The Bible says we are not appointed unto wrath...God's or the antichrist. What is the purpose of the church going through the tribulation anyway? God's wrath for the church was taken out on Christ on the cross! The tribulation is for the jews.

 

umm... the 7 years of tribulation and God's wrath are different.

the bible does say we are not appointed unto wrath. and the seven vials are God's wrath.

the antichrist's "wrath" is at a different time then God's wrath (7 vials)
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what's the purpose of the church going through the tribulation?

because it needs it. desperately. i think you know what i mean.

 

post-trib, pre-mill, Raptured-up-to-heaven with Christ at the 2nd coming.

Like it says in Matt 24.

 

No trib. When Jesus comes back, it will be to resurrect the bodies of His saints for glory and eternity future with Him, and at the same time raise the unsaved, for judgment to the lake of fire with the devil and his minions.

But then again, I don't care either way. Pretrib, Posttrib, No trib, whichever is true don't reallly matter much if you'll be in eternity with God anyway.

I find it silly for Christians to speculate and divide even on who the rotten potatoes the anti Christ is.

If we know we truly belong to Christ, what do we care ?

 

This is a very dangerous way to operate. You are basically saying that God's Word doesn't matter. We had a couple of Sunday School classes where we would start to discuss controversial issues and in the end people would say it doesn't matter, because it doesn't affect my salvation.

That is just a copout for not wanting to understand the more meatier subjects of Scripture. They do matter or God would not have revealed it to us. If it's in there it is in there for a reason and a purpose and we should seek the Spirit guidance to the Truth!