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Preemptive Nuclear War vs. Christianity

Discussion in 'Political Debate & Discussion' started by Rufus_1611, Jun 25, 2007.

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  1. James_Newman

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    But who's counting?
     
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    Possibly, but I believe the lost your mind strategy would work best if your leader was an unbalanced dictator such as in N. Korea or religious zealots such as Iran.
     
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    ...........
     
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    :laugh:

    Yes, I remember this idiotic survey.

    Part of the feeble attempt by foreign anti -war Bush haters to affect our election.

    Hate is often irrational.
     
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    I know, I know. Any survey that doesn't get results that match up with your agenda is idiotic. Ha, ha, ha. Laugh, laugh, laugh. etc.
     
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    Hate is often irrational. That includes yours.
     
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    No of course not. They are people who had studied the issue who published their findings in various places.
     
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    In my world view, individuals who desire that others not have a spirit of murder in their heart and don't carry it out in deed, are not the haters.

    "A new commandment I give unto you, That ye love one another; as I have loved you, that ye also love one another." - John 13:34

    "But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you;" - Matthew 5:44

    I'm not sure if it is their skin or their religion that causes you such offense and causes you to believe it alright to invade their lands and kill them or potentially drop a nuclear weapon on them....but since you accuse me of hating W Bush, do you love Muslims?

    For me, I can comfortably say that I love George W Bush. I wish that he'd get saved and repent of his deeds but I love him enough to desire that and I pray for all of our leaders.

    I too love the Muslim people, I have had the pleasure of knowing Muslims, who I adore and had the honor of witnessing to. I would much desire to witness to Iraqis and Iranians before I would desire that my government go about killing them and tell me they are doing it to protect my freedom.
     
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    Be sure to let us know if you ever dust off those unnamed sources in various places.
     
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    So you have determined he is unsaved? Interesting. I didn't realize the depth of your hate.

    FYI I don't hate muslims, but I hate their murderous religion.
     
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    Whether he is the president of the United States or a strawberry picker in Arizona, an individual who believes that Muslims and Christians serve the same God and that "we have different routes of getting to the almighty" is an individual in dire need of the saving gospel of Jesus Christ. Do you believe that Muslims and Christians serve the same God?

    Bush is a Universalist? - Video

    Very well. If the United States of America decides to nuke Iran will they be bombing the "murderous religion" or Muslims?
     
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    I thought we were only to adore Jesus. Go figure.
     
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    I believe he is mistaken, but that doen't mean he is unsaved.

    I'll not judge him.
     
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    There is no reason to believe that will happen, making your question moot.

    Ask me again if it happens.
     
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    My apologies, that was an improper use of the term. I retract the comment and will say instead, that I like them.
     
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    He's going to mistake his way to the lake of fire, if he doesn't get saved.

    Christianity 101...

    "Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me." - John 14:6

    "Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved." - Acts 4:12​
    "For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus;" - 1 Timothy 2:5

    If someone thinks that Mohammed can get folks saved, then that is the one of the least subtile examples of someone preaching another Jesus one can find today.

    "But I fear, lest by any means, as the serpent beguiled Eve through his subtilty, so your minds should be corrupted from the simplicity that is in Christ.For if he that cometh preacheth another Jesus, whom we have not preached, or if ye receive another spirit, which ye have not received, or another gospel, which ye have not accepted, ye might well bear with him. " - 2 Corinthians 11:3-4
     
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    There are three carrier strike groups in the gulf right now. We have the current president of the United States saying all options are on the table and a crop of presidential wannabes saying the same. There is as much reason to believe that it will happen, as there is to believe it won't.
     
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    May I recommend Psalms 27:1 to calm your irrational fears?:praying:
     
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    That's a beautiful verse. May I recommend James 4 to address your irrational desire to kill people or to support those who do?
     
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